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Re:John Lewis slams UK education system and offers staff lit... by MattGaiser on Sunday July 04, 2021 @05:42AM (#27728417)
> Anybody who has spent any time around young people in the UK

I don't think this is sufficient as people tend to group with people like themselves. For example, I do not believe I know any adults without a university degree. I might erroneously conclude that virtually everyone goes to university. Most people do not have one.

Re:John Lewis slams UK education system and offers staff lit... by DaiPlusPlus on Sunday July 04, 2021 @05:59AM (#27728496)
> Most people do not have one.

Statistics...

According to the 2019 AEI report on postsecondary attainment, the UK currently has 51.6% postsecondary attainment amongst those then aged 25-34: https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/International...

Reports for the entire working-force (e.g. 25-65) will skew much lower due to the significantly lower percentage of postsecondary education in the overall population that started to rise through to the 1990s.

Re:John Lewis slams UK education system and offers staff lit... by crispyambulance on Sunday July 04, 2021 @07:00AM (#27728746)
The strange thing is, it's not always apparent whether someone is functionally illiterate or innumerate.

It's disturbingly routine, in the US at least, to have a degree with barely even a grade school understanding of math. And although total illiteracy is uncommon among high-school and college-educated people, you would be surprised how many can't write a normal paragraph or follow a written argument.

You can't necessarily see this with normal public or workplace interactions, but it is real.

Re:John Lewis slams UK education system and offers staff lit... by TheAdamAndChe on Sunday July 04, 2021 @07:49AM (#27728978)
For most people, math and writing aren't part of their jobs. Skills that aren't used aren't remembered.

I've seen this in myself. In high school, I got up to precalculus level math. I've been trying to relearn it, and when I started, I was amazed that I'd forgotten Algebra 2 level skills.