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Re:Apple and Intel first to use TSMC 3nm by analognoise on Saturday July 03, 2021 @01:40PM (#27723346)
Yeah and after you have a working $30B fab, how many people are going to follow you to build one?

The first one built will get cheaper to run every year - it will pay for itself by the time a second company even tries to compete. The first person to the "final" node will have a natural, insurmountable monopoly.

You could extract rent basically forever after that point.

Re:Apple and Intel first to use TSMC 3nm by atq2119 on Sunday July 04, 2021 @03:26AM (#27727895)
I don't think we'll see a final node in our lifetimes. Improvements are slowing down and will become a trickle, but that doesn't mean research stops entirely.

Consider other mature technology, like the internal combustion engine. ICEs have been improved continuously, though the changes have become marginal as the technology matured. However, if research and improvements on ICEs ends entirely it's not because the technology has been fully explored but because they're obsoleted by electric cars.

Re:Apple and Intel first to use TSMC 3nm by fshbbdssbbgdd on Saturday July 03, 2021 @04:49PM (#27724793)
I thought the drivers of cost are lots of design work, patents, trade secrets etc. involved with each process. If there’s a “final” node, those costs should decrease over time and eventually become more of a commodity.
Re:Apple and Intel first to use TSMC 3nm by labawi on Saturday July 03, 2021 @04:08PM (#27724468)
That's only true if the supply satisfies demand.