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Re:America’s government comes clean on UFOs by jodrellblank on Saturday July 03, 2021 @12:20PM (#27722692)
I tried linking the debunk videos to someone in a HN thread, and they dismissed them and did the "do your research like I did ;) ;)" thing. I asked for any research links and read the single one they offered and argued it, but they preferred to take the authority of trained Navy Pilots to some internet rando. Neither of our opinions changed.

Their position is roughly "it has been seen by competent people, and mechanisms speculated about by competent people, so it exists, so there must be holes in our understanding of physics / future tech which makes it possible to exist, just imagine what they might be". My position is "I as a layperson can't imagine how it could work, therefore it can't work even though I have no qualifications to declare that. Instead just imagine the ways qualified people are wrong about things all the time".

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Re:America’s government comes clean on UFOs by skinkestek on Saturday July 03, 2021 @12:32PM (#27722791)
> but they preferred to take the authority of trained Navy Pilots to some internet rando.

That is the only reasonable thing to do IMO.

Besides some of them are verified by multiple independent sensor systems.

Does this mean I think we are visited by extraterrestrials?

No. Edit: Or rather, I don't have any strong opinion on it but I that would not be my best guess.

Only that I find some "debunking" claims as convincing as the end of a Scooby-Doo episode: The monster on chicken legs turns out to be not the prime suspect but someone else and there is no way he could have fit into that costume.

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Re:America’s government comes clean on UFOs by hackerNoose on Saturday July 03, 2021 @01:20PM (#27723186)
Have you actually listened to the interviews with the pilots? The debunking videos offered do not explain what they saw or experienced. Choosing the debunking guys explanation means that you basically have to believe in a conspiracy involving the pilots. So you're back to square one.
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Re:America’s government comes clean on UFOs by mannykannot on Saturday July 03, 2021 @02:03PM (#27723522)
Unless the interviews with the pilots - or statements by anyone else, for that matter - present facts or other arguments which render the debunking unsound, then this approach merely avoids the issues raised by the debunkers, and their specific arguments remain uncontested.

I would be interested in any counter-debunking that specifically addresses the arguments of the debunkers.

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