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Re:Bay Area cities want to end single-family home zoning by Schiendelman on Saturday July 03, 2021 @11:25AM (#27722201)
Earlier - this started in 1911 when the Supreme Court said that.
Re:Bay Area cities want to end single-family home zoning by jankyxenon on Saturday July 03, 2021 @01:08PM (#27723080)
Highly progressive people continue to self segregate into very non-diverse neighborhoods when buying houses.
Re:Bay Area cities want to end single-family home zoning by moosey on Saturday July 03, 2021 @03:20PM (#27724040)
This is category error, at a minimum. 'highly progressive people' is an abstraction and cannot take action. It's imagine it's also inductive reasoning and out group bias.
Re:Bay Area cities want to end single-family home zoning by carom on Saturday July 03, 2021 @05:29PM (#27725068)
This was my experience working at Google. Very liberal until you start talking about upzoning, then suddenly "some neighborhoods should keep their character".
Re:Bay Area cities want to end single-family home zoning by thatfrenchguy on Saturday July 03, 2021 @11:38PM (#27727057)
Very liberal until it's time to actually solve their own backyard's problems eh.
Re:Bay Area cities want to end single-family home zoning by enraged_camel on Sunday July 04, 2021 @12:51PM (#27730985)
NIMBY does not mean conservative. Indeed, one of the most annoying things about NIMBYs is that they come in all political shapes and sizes. :)
Re:Bay Area cities want to end single-family home zoning by imtringued on Saturday July 03, 2021 @02:49PM (#27723824)
They also complain about ghettoization as soon as certain people come to their neighborhood.
Re:Bay Area cities want to end single-family home zoning by seoaeu on Saturday July 03, 2021 @11:40AM (#27722345)
Re:Bay Area cities want to end single-family home zoning by raldi on Saturday July 03, 2021 @01:29PM (#27723261)
Housing discrimination persisted well beyond 1917. See, for instance, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining

It wasn't until the late 60's / early 70's that explicit racial discrimination was finally outlawed, and it's not a coincidence that exclusionary zoning took off immediately thereafter as a prima facie race-neutral way to achieve the same outcome.

Re:Bay Area cities want to end single-family home zoning by seoaeu on Saturday July 03, 2021 @01:49PM (#27723418)
No, you have the timeline wrong. Exclusionary zoning took off almost immediately after Buchanan. Some of the original designers specifically cited that Supreme Court case as their motivation for passing such laws. Redlining and racial covenants were also used around that time for similar purposes.
Re:Bay Area cities want to end single-family home zoning by raldi on Saturday July 03, 2021 @01:55PM (#27723462)
As the threat of litigation became a new constant, the San Francisco Planning Department slowly began to craft a new approach to development. The city’s 1971 Urban Design Plan was the first to codify the shift in values from the Modernist freeway-and-tower model toward a greater respect for San Francisco’s unique neighborhoods and their human-scale features. The plan focused on preserving and expanding existing neighborhood character

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But the largest legislative achievement of this emerging anti-growth coalition would be the Residential Rezoning of 1978, a project to implement stricter controls across all of San Francisco’s neighborhoods. In addition to creating 40-foot building-height limits for most residential areas, the legislation included new setback rules (regulating how far a building could be from the public right-of-way), low-density requirements (limiting the number of housing units in a given building), and overall design guidelines aimed at preserving entire neighborhoods in amber.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90242388/the-bad-design-that-cre...

Re:Bay Area cities want to end single-family home zoning by seoaeu on Saturday July 03, 2021 @02:28PM (#27723680)
That proves that exclusionary zoning was around in 1971, but not that it wasn't used earlier. Massachusetts amended its constitution in 1918, literally one year after Buchanan, to enable cities to impose zoning. And the idea of using it to create racial segregation was specifically discussed at the time [0]:

Of particular concern was the fear that zoning would bring about racial and socioeconomic segregation in Massachusetts, which need not take the form of racial tests, as zoning could just as easily bring about segregation by regulating who could afford certain neighborhoods by income. Pro-zoning advocates... [went ahead anyways]

[0]: https://www.cambridgema.gov/~/media/Files/officeofthemayor/2...

Re:Bay Area cities want to end single-family home zoning by raldi on Saturday July 03, 2021 @03:04PM (#27723926)
Yep, my position isn't that EZ was invented in the 70's; that's just when it swept the nation, and in particular, the Bay Area.
Re:Bay Area cities want to end single-family home zoning by raldi on Saturday July 03, 2021 @11:32AM (#27722273)