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Re:Media blackout after key witness against Assange admits l... by TMWNN on Friday July 02, 2021 @06:48PM (#27717839)
>Original point: even in the darkest hours of the civil war, the enemies of the Constitution never managed to sack the US capitol.

I was unaware that the Capitol had been torched after being emptied of its treasures and nubile women, as opposed to being invaded by morons who were more focused on taking selfies than sacking.

>Response (paraphrased): So?, only one person died violently, [various unrelated distraction arguments attacking claims not made]

You and I both know that the media has done a very good job of convincing the public that multiple police officers were killed during the "sack", when (as I said) the only person who died violently was an unarmed rioter.

>This poster also advances the controversial (I'd call it a howler) claim that 'the former was allowed to enter its target' as if the Capitol Police intended for a sack of the Capitol to happen. Most people find these arguments downright offensive.

What else would you call a fully armed force not using armed force to prevent rioters (all but a handful unarmed) from entering a prohibited area? Remember, said rioter who died was killed after force was finally used (better late than never). If the Capitol Police had chosen/been allowed to do so, no rioter would have ever entered the building.

Let me repeat: The only difference between what happened at the Capitol and what almost happened at the White House the preceding June is that the rioters did not get inside in the latter case.

Re:Media blackout after key witness against Assange admits l... by mullingitover on Friday July 02, 2021 @07:32PM (#27718114)
> What else would you call a fully armed force not using armed force to prevent rioters (all but a handful unarmed) from entering a prohibited area?

I've seen no evidence for that 'all but a handful unarmed' claim. I have seen interviews with Capitol Police saying they were afraid to use their firearms because they believed they were massively outgunned and would be killed if a serious gunfight broke out.

Even allowing for that hypothetical though, the allegedly unarmed mob a massive tactical advantage[1]:

> “We weren’t battling 50 or 60 rioters in this tunnel,” he said in the first public account from D.C. police officers who fought to protect the Capitol during last week’s siege. “We were battling 15,000 people. It looked like a medieval battle scene.”

> Rioters swarmed, battering the officers with metal pipes peeled from scaffolding and a pole with an American flag attached, police said. Both were struck with stun guns. Fanone suffered a mild heart attack and drifted in and out of consciousness.

> All the while, the mob was chanting “U.S.A.” over and over and over again.

> “We got one! We got one!” Fanone said he heard rioters shout. “Kill him with his own gun!”

[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/01/14/dc-police...