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Re:Scientists quit journal board, protesting ‘grossly irresp... by ekianjo on Friday July 02, 2021 @10:41AM (#27712118)
> What's the alternative to vaccinations?

It's not like there is no effective treatment in case you are infected. After all, we did quite a few clinical trials in the past year, and it's kind of surprising the answer is "let's just do mass vaccinations and nothing else"

Re:Scientists quit journal board, protesting ‘grossly irresp... by bart_spoon on Friday July 02, 2021 @11:54AM (#27713123)
I don't think anyone is suggesting vaccines are the end all-be-all regarding the pandemic. Vaccines are the first line of defense, with treatments being for those who still manage to get sick. These treatments aren't an alternative to vaccines, they are a complement.

That's like saying seatbelts are an alternative to traffic laws.

Re:Scientists quit journal board, protesting ‘grossly irresp... by effie on Friday July 02, 2021 @12:59PM (#27714009)
> I don't think anyone is suggesting vaccines are the end all-be-all regarding the pandemic.

Many states and health institutions behave as this was the case.

Re:Scientists quit journal board, protesting ‘grossly irresp... by rualca on Friday July 02, 2021 @07:12PM (#27717991)
Many states, such as Spain, are already pretending that COVID does not exist because of their vaccination rollout plan in spite of their rollout plan only recently started vaccinating 40yo with their first dose.
Re:Scientists quit journal board, protesting ‘grossly irresp... by shoto_io on Friday July 02, 2021 @01:18PM (#27714219)
Even with an effective treatment, you would need to (a) either impose strict lockdown rules or (b) accept a meltdown of the healthcare system without a vaccine. What would you choose?
Re:Scientists quit journal board, protesting ‘grossly irresp... by ekianjo on Saturday July 03, 2021 @12:11AM (#27719292)
i fail to see any medical system collapse happening anywhere these days and lockdowns have hardly shown any effectiveness as people still gather anyway and nothing is really enforced. Look at LA lockdowns and good luck trying to see where they started and ended if you look at the number of infections over time.