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Re:The scientists hired by big oil who predicted the climate... by SaltyBackendGuy on Friday July 02, 2021 @10:13AM (#27711772)
I was just talking about this last night with my SO.

We both agreed that history will look back and see these companies being responsible for the destruction of humanity. I really hope that's not the case, however seems to be the course we're headed. Especially with the amount of people that _still_ think it's just not real or not a problem due to the years of "PR" (propaganda).

Re:The scientists hired by big oil who predicted the climate... by apocalypstyx on Friday July 02, 2021 @10:53AM (#27712275)
> We both agreed that history will look back and see these companies being responsible for the destruction of humanity.

History is predicated on at least a rough continuity of records. If the rupture of that continuity of records is bad enough, the concept of history ceases to exist. All we're left with is hunter gathers stumbling across the ruins of ancient 'cities of the gods'.

So even the catharsis of imagining certain individuals or groups being vilified for eternity might be denied us.

Re:The scientists hired by big oil who predicted the climate... by SaltyBackendGuy on Friday July 02, 2021 @11:03AM (#27712422)
That's a really good point.

As the old saying goes 'History is written by the victors'. If we all lose then we also lose history.

Re:The scientists hired by big oil who predicted the climate... by DoingIsLearning on Friday July 02, 2021 @10:30AM (#27711982)
The way things are going I suspect we will reach a tipping point where environmental organizations will start to have violent fringes and start to target carbon emitting corporate boards and C-levels.

Probably falling into the same mechanics of radicalization/conversion you have seen before with Middle-eastern groups and more recently with far-right groups.

Re:The scientists hired by big oil who predicted the climate... by philips on Friday July 02, 2021 @12:01PM (#27713218)
You might enjoy Ministry of the Future which has a plot line along this type of thought.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ministry_for_the_Future

Re:The scientists hired by big oil who predicted the climate... by beaconstudios on Friday July 02, 2021 @10:44AM (#27712152)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eco-terrorism#Groups_accused

There are already environmental extremists, they're quite a small fringe so far.

Re:The scientists hired by big oil who predicted the climate... by Schiendelman on Friday July 02, 2021 @12:43PM (#27713840)
Personally, I haven’t seen a better option to cause change.
Re:The scientists hired by big oil who predicted the climate... by iNane9000 on Friday July 02, 2021 @11:35AM (#27712847)
I think part of the problem is this misconception that the solution to climate change issues require winning a war of hearts and minds. Let’s assume you cannot educate everyone, but instead climate change will be a problem understood and solved by a subset of people, maybe a single person. It may be the case we can never get the majority to care or understand; then what?
Re:The scientists hired by big oil who predicted the climate... by RandomLensman on Friday July 02, 2021 @11:26AM (#27712733)
Climate change will not be the "destruction of humanity". In fact, over the next billion years humanity will have to get capable of living with large scale climate changes anyway, so this is good test case on how we deal with it - especially on short-term vs long-term trade-offs.

The way investors and financial institutions are salivating over the revenues from transition and sustainable finance, I'd say it will be expensive for most us but it won't lack financing to do things.

Re:The scientists hired by big oil who predicted the climate... by throwawaynumber on Friday July 02, 2021 @12:01PM (#27713215)
you can add anti nuclear environmental activists to that list of being responsible for the destruction of humanity.