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Re:Conspiracy: In Theory and Practice by grumblenum on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @07:30AM (#27687267)
My pet theory is that Snowden's disclosure is both a bit of CIA/NSA sibling rivalry and a misinformation campaign to scare people into thinking that the NSA has far more surveillance capabilities than it really does. The goals being to frighten people into inaction and to herd them onto platforms these entities can monitor (TOR & ANOM come to mind).

That Snowden is able to rake in book and movie deals while 'on the run' makes me doubt that anybody is actually interested in catching him.

Re:Conspiracy: In Theory and Practice by int_19h on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @08:36AM (#27687701)
Are those huge NSA data centers in Utah also just for the show, then?
Re:Conspiracy: In Theory and Practice by grumblenum on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @09:02AM (#27687957)
No, but I think it's unlikely that anybody, including the NSA, can collect, index, catalog and parse meaning out of hundreds of GB _per second_ (I'm using Statista numbers for global IP traffic). I would be skeptical that it's even physically possible with any amount of hardware in existence. If you really want a concentrated haul of the most interesting stuff, then I would say that platforms which openly market themselves as safe venues for criminals and dissidents would be strong candidates. You would still have extraordinary data warehousing needs just for that limited subset of traffic.
Re:Conspiracy: In Theory and Practice by posix_me_less on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @09:57AM (#27688587)
> unlikely that anybody, including the NSA, can collect, index, catalog and parse meaning out of hundreds of GB _per second

No, it's actually very likely. I've noticed people often make this argument as if it is obvious that the data that is being processed is somehow too large to handle. But they misunderstand the ways this can be done and underestimate current technological capabilities.

One big switch in single datacenter can handle all traffic of that datacenter, hundreds of GB/s. Make a special one with custom FPGA/cpus and in addition to switching, it can do decrypting, parsing, matching and filtering the way you like, hundreds of GB per second, real-time. This is a highly paralelizable job and the hardware is made to exploit that.

The resulting stream of interesting data is probably much thinner and can be easily sent to some central location, realtime. The rest can be stored locally and sent on demand.

Re:Conspiracy: In Theory and Practice by grumblenum on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @12:51PM (#27690759)
I can see how hardware handling of switching, some filtering and maybe stripping TLS is feasible. Since you're knowledgeable of the subject, how would you index that information for future retrieval, which could be anything in the set of all digital representations of information in all possible languages and encodings? How would you determine what information is important?
Re:Conspiracy: In Theory and Practice by fjrueosjdksn on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @08:01PM (#27694942)
packet metadata, intercept location and timestamp, will form the index.
Re:Conspiracy: In Theory and Practice by fjrueosjdksn on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @08:00PM (#27694929)
You are not incorrect about that hardware.

Splice off fibre optics, copy packets, localised hardware processes like you say, directs to data center for future processing or active surveillance or active legal interception, etc.

Re:Conspiracy: In Theory and Practice by posix_me_less on Thursday July 01, 2021 @08:53AM (#27698598)
Which part is incorrect?
Re:Conspiracy: In Theory and Practice by int_19h on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @09:48AM (#27688472)
I don't think they can parse all of it in real time, but storing it with basic metadata (like IP addresses) is another matter. Then it can be selectively extracted and parsed when needed.
Re:Conspiracy: In Theory and Practice by pixelrevision on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @08:39AM (#27687722)
So Emmanuel Goldstein basically?
Re:Conspiracy: In Theory and Practice by grumblenum on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @09:04AM (#27687984)
No, Snowden is portrayed as a hero. Emmanual Goldstein is "whiteness".