Ask HN: Help, my boss wants to us to use laptops from 2011 for development

Re:Ask HN: Help, my boss wants to us to use laptops from 201... by hnthrow12345 on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @04:55AM (#27686419)

Thanks for your suggestion. I think not using an IDE isn't the best idea, since then they've never used it when they start their first job. They're complete beginners. While I agree it's important to understand the fundamentals (and I do in fact teach them how to compile just with javac), I also think it's important to be familiar with modern tooling.

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Re:Ask HN: Help, my boss wants to us to use laptops from 201... by rgoulter on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @05:06AM (#27686474)

Using vim or emacs instead of an IDE is more 'hardcore' than it is second-class to IDEs.

I could see it be a disadvantage to use vim/emacs for the use case of debugging.. but, the last thread I saw on debugging on HN had about half the replies say they just do printf debugging because they can't figure out how to setup debugging.

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