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Re:Pop_OS 21.04 by salawat on Tuesday June 29, 2021 @11:52PM (#27684675)
>Anyone that disagrees with those sorts of principles can of course simply install a different distribution that aligns more closely with their own personal philosophy and gives them the absolute control that they need, but for me, I just want it to work.

This is really quite disingenuous, especially coupled with the jab at Nvidia cards. In case you weren't aware, there is no option to actually make an Nvidia card useful because of their locking up of P-state modifications and re-clocking behind cryptographically signed firmware they refuse to distribute. I think you actually know this though, otherwise why would you bring up the crippled nature of Nvidia cards of post-Maxwell and later?

PopOS definitely deserves accolades, but let's not pass off Nvidia's giving the middle finger proctological exam to the FOSS community as a point that makes PopOS better. Nothing is made better by that but Nvidia's bottom line, and vendor lock-in agenda.

Re:Pop_OS 21.04 by sbrother on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @12:05AM (#27684743)
I have heard this criticism of Nvidia w.r.t. Linux before, so I feel like I must be missing something. Working with Nvidia cards has been easy for the last ~5 years -- literally just install their drivers, `apt install nvidia-cuda-toolkit` and CuDNN and everything just works. In comparison, I've never been able to figure out how to get Tensorflow or PyTorch to run on Windows. What are your use cases that the Nvidia drivers fail for?

EDIT: I think I misunderstood, and your complaint wasn't about the quality of their proprietary drivers, rather their refusal to work with open source developers. I was reacting mainly to "no option to actually make an Nvidia card useful"

Re:Pop_OS 21.04 by edgyquant on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @01:02AM (#27685065)
I can’t get cuda to work for me on my nvidia 1660x. I’ve followed their steps straight from nvidia, am using the Ubuntu LTS, etc. I’m sure I must be doing something wrong but I always get a dependency issue (cuda depends on X which isn’t going to be installed) or when I try to import tensorflow it claims it can’t find the .so files. I’ve added the cuda path in opt to the LD path with no luck. I bought nvidia specifically to be able to use tensorflow (had an amd prior) and I’m just kinda upset about it.
Re:Pop_OS 21.04 by kwertzzz on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @04:12AM (#27686187)
Installing CUDA (with kernel driver, CuDNN, Tensorflow/PyTorch) has not been easy for me either. Usually you want to have the latest version of all of them. But sometimes the very latest version of these packages is not yet supported by the other. This is where it get difficult. Also the fact that the CUDA instruction from TensorFlow [1] still are at Ubuntu 18.04 does not help. In my experience installing PyTorch with CUDA is easier than TensorFlow (and much better documented). The best experience, in my opinion, is however with CUDA and Flux.jl or Knet.jl on Julia. All you need there is the kernel driver (and julia). CUDA and CuDNN will be installed per default if necessary. I am wondering why CUDA is not simply a pip-installable package (like it is in Julia or in Conda).

[1] https://www.tensorflow.org/install/gpu

Re:Pop_OS 21.04 by eigenspace on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @12:38PM (#27690613)
My understanding is that the dependency analysis in Pip just isn’t very good, so it’s easy to end up with incompatible versions.
Re:Pop_OS 21.04 by disabled on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @01:20AM (#27685173)
You may want to try this guide: https://medium.com/@dun.chwong/the-ultimate-guide-ubuntu-18-...

I also had to resort to looking at guides on Medium.com for installing CUDA, as the install is not as straightforward as it looks. Alternatively, you can search on DuckDuckGo (for privacy reasons) with this as the query: "NVIDIA" AND "CUDA" AND "install" site:medium.com

Re:Pop_OS 21.04 by rahimnathwani on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @02:18AM (#27685515)
The fast.ai student community forums have good tips for people having trouble getting CUDA to work.
Re:Pop_OS 21.04 by least on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @12:13AM (#27684783)
It’s not a jab against FOSS and I apologize if it comes off that way. Nvidia is absolutely the problematic party here.

In the end though I’m not going to use nouveau and am one hundred percent going to install the proprietary blobs Nvidia provides because I bought a dedicated GPU for a reason. Making it so I don’t have to jump through hoops to do that is appreciated and PopOS is one of the few that will just let me skip several steps to get there.

Re:Pop_OS 21.04 by numlock86 on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @07:04AM (#27687122)
I've been using Linux with NVidia since ... wow, what time the 9600 was around again? I've been with many new generations and I am currently using a 3090 and I can't remember ever having a problem. The performance is almost the same (depends on the use-case, sometimes better, sometimes worse) as on Windows, at least when using things like Tensorflow and the like. The only problems I ever had were when I tried to get a few ATI/AMD cards to run on someone else's computer. But hey, at least people praise them for being cool with the FOSS community I guess?