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Re:Kubernetes a black hole of unpredictable spend, according... by reedciccio on Tuesday June 29, 2021 @01:37PM (#27679188)
Renting the hardware is not necessarily a cost-saving measure though: how much of the compute/storage capacity you have is sitting idle in your datacenter? That's the whole point of finops: you need to have full visibility into the usage of your infrastructure so you can optimize the spend.
Re:Kubernetes a black hole of unpredictable spend, according... by wffurr on Tuesday June 29, 2021 @03:19PM (#27680481)
OP didn't say anything about cost saving but rather predictability.
Re:Kubernetes a black hole of unpredictable spend, according... by joana035 on Tuesday June 29, 2021 @01:56PM (#27679430)
Gosh, there is job title for capacity planning?
Re:Kubernetes a black hole of unpredictable spend, according... by reedciccio on Tuesday June 29, 2021 @01:59PM (#27679469)
do capacity planners buy and sell capacity to scale up and down month to month? :)
Re:Kubernetes a black hole of unpredictable spend, according... by Gravityloss on Tuesday June 29, 2021 @02:31PM (#27679855)
When does the need ever go down?
Re:Kubernetes a black hole of unpredictable spend, according... by jonfw on Tuesday June 29, 2021 @02:36PM (#27679921)
If you're retail, it goes down after xmas. If you're a tax company, it goes down after may. If you sell a product, it goes down when you go long enough without releasing anything new
Re:Kubernetes a black hole of unpredictable spend, according... by jen20 on Tuesday June 29, 2021 @03:13PM (#27680396)
At night, often. For example, I have had a use case where we needed a 1000 node build farm during the day when developers were working, but only 50 at night. Machine learning jobs are another common source of workloads that need burst capacity.
Re:Kubernetes a black hole of unpredictable spend, according... by cortesoft on Tuesday June 29, 2021 @02:49PM (#27680093)
What company has constant load 24/7/365?
Re:Kubernetes a black hole of unpredictable spend, according... by dcow on Tuesday June 29, 2021 @03:42PM (#27680781)
I’m going to guess Visa.
Re:Kubernetes a black hole of unpredictable spend, according... by mateo411 on Tuesday June 29, 2021 @04:16PM (#27681164)
I'm sure they still see time of day effects, day of week effects, month of year effects.
Re:Kubernetes a black hole of unpredictable spend, according... by funcDropShadow on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @02:45AM (#27685656)
It is not necessarily a cost-saving measure, but it can be in some cases. In a project I was involved with, we came to the conclusion that we would pay AWS every three month the cost of the hardware that we would by ourselfs. I am aware that AWS includes hosting and services. Nevertheless that is a very big difference.
Re:Kubernetes a black hole of unpredictable spend, according... by tomc1985 on Tuesday June 29, 2021 @06:40PM (#27682688)
Still amazing to me that keeping capacity in reserve is now demonized