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Re:Ask HN: You have one shot to redesign the Internet – what... by vb6sp6 on Monday June 28, 2021 @06:34PM (#27669161)
> 1. Everything being 'free' by default drives us to ad-supported centralized services. Economics aren't a separable concern.

I hate this argument. I've been online for a long time and the internet existed just fine without, for example, facebook. We don't have to accept ads but we do have to be willing to not use certain things out there.

Re:Ask HN: You have one shot to redesign the Internet – what... by effie on Tuesday June 29, 2021 @08:56AM (#27675133)
Indeed, on the surface the argument is sound, but when you look back into past, it's clear it is not how things have to work. Web can exist even without pervasive surveillance. It would be different, no huge ad companies growing like cancer, but that would probably be good for information quality/communication freedom on the web.