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Re:San Francisco residents are fed up with city inaction on ... by guessbest on Monday June 28, 2021 @10:18AM (#27662294)
I've been seeing articles like this for years, but the people I have talked to in the real world say they don't see any of these problems like how they are reported online. There must be some kind of perception gap going on.
Re:San Francisco residents are fed up with city inaction on ... by boringg on Monday June 28, 2021 @10:26AM (#27662408)
It is definitely there but there is a very widespread effort to demonize SF by any right leaning media organization (even NYT loves to hate on SF). Therefore the death of San Francisco has been widely over exaggerated much like the plight of San Franciscans. That and a lot of the headlines generate solid click through ad dollars.

There are very real problems in SF (as with every other major american city). Take your news sources with a serious dose of skepticism.

Re:San Francisco residents are fed up with city inaction on ... by hskll on Monday June 28, 2021 @11:52AM (#27663481)
> Therefore the death of San Francisco has been widely over exaggerated much like the plight of San Franciscans.

Depends on your definition of 'death'.

I take issue with JumpCrisscross's definition of 'it's not going to be as wealthy as it was.'

In fact I mourn the opposite.

The city is too expensive.

Specifically too expensive for new voices to take risks on interesting food ideas, or unique boutiques, or artistic expression.

The story of San Francisco is the story of gentrification chasing culture. Dating back to development of the Fillmore Jazz culture precipated by poor people moving into the boarded up buildings in what was then Japan town following the US government's rouding up and interning of Japanese residents.

I think San Francisco is dead, or at least 'dying', because all of the unique neighborhoods have become homogenised 'techie' centers; 'dead' because everyone seems unintersted in making efforts to push back on legislatively.

If the majority of your residents are primarily consumers of culture, and monied to the point that producers of culture are unable to afford to live there, then your city will lose any cultural identity.

I think it was perfectly encapsulated in a scene in "The Last Black Man In San Francisco". The protagonist was sitting at a bus stop and a fully nude person walked up and sat at the bus stop. They sat quietly together until the nude person asked how long the protagonist had been waiting. The protagonist answered and added a personal note about thinking it'd just be faster to skateboard instead. They nod in aggreement and then a party bus full of people adorned in what appears to be startup swag stop in front of the bus stop and drunkenly point out the 'hillarity' of this old naked person just sitting at a bus stop.

Something that was unconventional social behaviour was treated as normal by our San Francisco loving protagonist and the drunken tech mob vocally mocked and denigrated that part of the city's identity.

That two minute scene encapsulated the last 15 years in the city for me, and it broke me.

I have heard some people hope that the now many vacant store fronts that suffered the ultimate fate due to the pandemic means the city could have a resurgence, but I have grown cynical, and fear it will just result in further consolidation of ownership in a wealthy few.

It happened to Manhattan too; another city I love. It belongs to the banks and uber wealthy now.

Re:San Francisco residents are fed up with city inaction on ... by pmoriarty on Monday June 28, 2021 @12:01PM (#27663578)
"It happened to Manhattan too; another city I love. It belongs to the banks and uber wealthy now."

It happens pretty much anywhere that becomes desirable to live for the rich.

I'm not really sure what could be done about it, since the rich are so good at getting what they want.

Re:San Francisco residents are fed up with city inaction on ... by hskll on Monday June 28, 2021 @12:19PM (#27663837)
Apparently something can be done legislatively.

The recreational cannabis rollout was delayed when the city, in my opinion rightly, realised that the dispensary licenses were being granted to a wealthy few. (And likely people who had previously financially lobbied against the legalisation for years.)

https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/sfs-proposed-cannabis-regula...

Build more housing. Shut down streets to car traffic. Encourage first time business owners. Expand social programs. Fund the arts. Make these wealthy companies buying up property pay for it. If they threaten to leave for Salt Lake or Austin then kindly wish them well.

Re:San Francisco residents are fed up with city inaction on ... by jollybean on Monday June 28, 2021 @10:20AM (#27662333)
SF is a highly compartmentalized city. If you walk through some areas to go to work, you see it. If you live just 400m away, you may never. That actually may possibly be part of the problem.
Re:San Francisco residents are fed up with city inaction on ... by the_snooze on Monday June 28, 2021 @10:29AM (#27662448)
I was in Berkeley for a couple years, living in the hills and working downtown. The two areas are just a 20 minute walk apart, but you wouldn't ever see the deep social issues and poverty on the streets if you never left the hills.
Re:San Francisco residents are fed up with city inaction on ... by pkdpic_y9k on Monday June 28, 2021 @10:26AM (#27662405)
Thats a really good point.
Re:San Francisco residents are fed up with city inaction on ... by scruple on Monday June 28, 2021 @12:30PM (#27663981)
I guess. I stopped going to SF back in 2015 because of how pathetic the city was _back then_ and I've heard from numerous friends who have left the place, pushing south to SV/San Jose, out to Davis and Sacramento, or even leaving the state entirely over the last 6 years that it's only gotten worse.

Who isn't being honest here?

Re:San Francisco residents are fed up with city inaction on ... by ta988 on Monday June 28, 2021 @10:25AM (#27662404)
Or investors in real estate that hired PR companies to try to increase "attractiveness" in areas they would want to develop. If you repeat it enough, it will be believed.
Re:San Francisco residents are fed up with city inaction on ... by ghoul_hunter on Monday June 28, 2021 @10:25AM (#27662390)
This article is just a piece of the long-running right-wing propaganda campaign aimed at discrediting Chesa Boudin. In SF, it's driven by VCs furious that he's sued gig economy companies for worker misclassification. In other cities, like Philadelphia, the backlash is driven by police unions (the DA in Philadelphia was the subject of a similar string of articles in the local and national press and then won reelection by a 2:1 margin over his closest rival).
Re:San Francisco residents are fed up with city inaction on ... by ta988 on Monday June 28, 2021 @10:27AM (#27662417)
Where can I read about that? Is anybody documenting these pressure groups across the country?
Re:San Francisco residents are fed up with city inaction on ... by boringg on Monday June 28, 2021 @10:30AM (#27662460)
Some about the recall effort funding sources - seems like a lot of out of sf money is coming into the campaign:

https://www.sfchronicle.com/local/article/These-charts-show-...

https://sfist.com/2021/06/24/recall-chesa-boudin-campaign-tr...

Re:San Francisco residents are fed up with city inaction on ... by refurb on Monday June 28, 2021 @11:54AM (#27663499)
Boudin anti-recall campaign is being financed by Gascon in LA. Two peas in a pod those guys are.
Re:San Francisco residents are fed up with city inaction on ... by ta988 on Monday June 28, 2021 @11:53PM (#27671570)
thanks