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Re:Cuba′s Covid vaccine rivals Pfizer, Moderna by sgc on Sunday June 27, 2021 @08:15PM (#27656726)
Well this has gotten old.

You stated that the current form of measurement was not very good. I pointed out that we care about transmission and mutation for long term eradication of the disease - hence the measurement that is used. It's obviously not negligible or the entire professional world would not use it as a measuring stick for vaccine effectiveness.

Re:Cuba′s Covid vaccine rivals Pfizer, Moderna by dataflow on Sunday June 27, 2021 @08:27PM (#27656797)
My comment wasn't about what measures the profession uses to do their work. My comment was about what measure they're communicating to us, random members of the public. These need not be the same thing.
Re:Cuba′s Covid vaccine rivals Pfizer, Moderna by sgc on Monday June 28, 2021 @09:50AM (#27661937)
That is fair enough. However it would still backfire, because the general public can't listen to anything responsibly.

If we report the vaccine is 99.5% effective at preventing serious illness, people will not listen to ANYTHING about being cautious and wearing a mask after they are vaccinated. I predict a nasty wave of COVID this fall/winter including in relatively highly vaccinated areas due to just this attitude already.

Re:Cuba′s Covid vaccine rivals Pfizer, Moderna by dataflow on Tuesday June 29, 2021 @06:59PM (#27682866)
> If we report the vaccine is 99.5% effective at preventing serious illness, people will not listen to ANYTHING about being cautious and wearing a mask after they are vaccinated.

Uhm, the CDC literally told vaccinated people they don't need masks indoors or outdoors. [1] At that point it's kind of silly to say quoting 99.5% does or will a detrimental impact.

> I predict a nasty wave of COVID this fall/winter including in relatively highly vaccinated areas due to just this attitude already.

No; if it happens, it certainly wouldn't be due to this; at best ('best' for your argument), it would be due to their overriding guidance re: not wearing masks, which I mentioned above. However, I predict if this happens, it'll be due to changing circumstances like worse variants breaking through the vaccine (which the CDC admits they do not have sufficient data on [2]), not due to their current advice being bad due for current variants.

[1] https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210513/cdc-vaccinated-you-...

[2] https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vac...