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Re:Why wood has gotten so dang expensive by cptskippy on Sunday June 27, 2021 @02:24PM (#27653880)
Oddly the good stuff wasn't much affected. I was making a work bench and picked up a 4x8 of red oak plywood for under $60 in May. Not what I would normally use but half the price.
Re:Why wood has gotten so dang expensive by xyzzyz on Sunday June 27, 2021 @02:51PM (#27654137)
Yeah, this is strange, especially as red oak plywood is mostly the same thing as normal plywood, the red oak is just a thin veneer on the face. I've been buying cherry lumber recently, and they went from something like $4.50/bf to $6.50/bf here. Significant increase, but not 3-fold.

Now that I think of it, it kinda makes sense: it's not the timber that's gotten more expensive, but the service of milling it. For products from relatively more expensive hardwood timber, milling costs constitute smaller fraction of the final cost, so even if milling costs triple, the final product might only go by 50%.

Re:Why wood has gotten so dang expensive by munificent on Sunday June 27, 2021 @04:40PM (#27655092)
It's more than just that. You can see weird price changes like this because of the limits of substitution.

Imagine you've got a project to build a bookcase. You're using cheaper normal plywood for hidden structural parts and nicer but more expensive red plywood for the stuff people will see. You price the whole thing out.

Then the price of wood skyrockets. To keep the price of the whole project under control, you start cutting costs. You use more of the cheaper plywood for the whole project and decide to skimp on the red oak.

Scale that across many projects and you get a paradoxical result where the cheapest goods in a category go up in price while the better goods don't, because people are subbing out the "cheap" stuff for the good stuff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giffen_good

Re:Why wood has gotten so dang expensive by ethbr0 on Sunday June 27, 2021 @03:39PM (#27654582)
FWIW, substitutability is a hard problem with algorithmic pricing, even for relatively stable inventory categories like big box construction retail.

I'd guess (with some insider knowledge) that (1) there wasn't any prebuilt link to adjust substitute pricing & (2) Depot didn't care enough to adjust pricing.

Both Depot and Lowes are in it for volume and long-term, which is why they don't do things like spike generator prices after hurricanes.

Re:Why wood has gotten so dang expensive by abakker on Sunday June 27, 2021 @04:46PM (#27655154)
A friend of mine in CT has problem now in the hardwood supply chain. The issue is that the kiln drying backlog has now caught up with hardwoods as many kilns are full of fir and pine. The supplies of paint grade poplar and soft maple are running quite low now.
Re:Why wood has gotten so dang expensive by dugmartin on Sunday June 27, 2021 @06:29PM (#27656072)
I was in Home Depot a couple of days ago (in Western Massachusetts). Crappy 19/32 CDX was $85 for a 4x8 sheet. Sitting right next to it was 3/4" oak veneer at $60. I think it would be pretty funny to sheath a house in sort of cabinet grade plywood (it is 7 ply Purebond which usually has a couple of voids per sheet).
Re:Why wood has gotten so dang expensive by ttwwmm on Sunday June 27, 2021 @10:51PM (#27657596)
Those are definitely not substitutable. In addition to the difference in glues the peer comment notes (the oak plywood will likely delaminate if exposed to moisture), you need to sheathe a house in a product rated for that use. That oak veneer doesn't have a span rating stamped on it, so any inspector would fail you.
Re:Why wood has gotten so dang expensive by lostapathy on Sunday June 27, 2021 @09:48PM (#27657286)
The problem is that the glue in the oak veneer plywood isn't really suitable for exterior applications like that. If it ever gets wet you're hosed.

Modern glues in exterior plywood and OSB-like products are amazing, but they don't use that in oak plywood.