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Re:Why did we ever think a student's first programming langu... by lelanthran on Sunday June 27, 2021 @05:13AM (#27649921)
> Why do you believe that "not everyone can understand chemistry"?

I didn't say that I did. My belief is irrelevant anyway, because it is generally accepted when someone says "not everyone can understand chemistry".

I was pointing out that saying such a thing only draws ire if you say it about CS.

> When I say "everyone" below, I mean "the overwhelming majority of people in the average range of human intelligence, without debilitating mental deficiencies". This group spans virtually everyone you are likely to encounter, from car mechanics to school teachers, to postal workers, to professional software engineers.

And yet there is no controversy if postal workers, car mechanics and hairdressers say that they are not able to understand chemistry. There is only controversy for CS.

I feel that you would do well to explain why only CS is controversial, while chemistry, auto mechanic and art is never controversial in regard to this particular assertion.

Re:Why did we ever think a student's first programming langu... by benrbray on Sunday June 27, 2021 @06:31AM (#27650333)
I guess I disagree with your premise then? In my experience someone who is likely to think that anyone can learn CS is likely to also think that anyone can learn art, car repair, or chemistry. On the flip side there are plenty of people who believe that people are born "chemistry people" or "math people" or "art people" etc.. I've not witnessed anyone say that CS is accessible but chemistry is not.
Re:Why did we ever think a student's first programming langu... by lelanthran on Monday July 05, 2021 @03:09AM (#27735338)
> I guess I disagree with your premise then? In my experience someone who is likely to think that anyone can learn CS is likely to also think that anyone can learn art, car repair, or chemistry.

That isn't my premise. My premise is that saying such a thing isn't a bold claim, it's a commonly accepted claim.

When you said "This is a bold claim", I replied with "I disagree", because "Some people just aren't any good at $DISCIPLINE" isn't a bold claim.