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Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by Miner49er on Saturday June 26, 2021 @02:48PM (#27644689)
Pretty much, he's been indicted for 17 counts of violating the Espionage Act, which yeah, is just for seeking/leaking confidential info. It's a huge attack on freedom of the press. The press has always been allowed to cover leaked stuff, the Espionage act has only been used against sources in the past, not reporters.

He's also facing a very minor charge (max 5 years in prison) for conspiracy to commit computer intrusion for allegedly helping Manning attempt to hack a computer.

Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by breakfastduck on Saturday June 26, 2021 @05:38PM (#27646133)
While I widely agree, if we're fair there's a difference between a Journalist covering leaked stuff and literally releasing the full unredacted documents to the public.

Otherwise I agree. His treatment comes down to nothing other than the fact the USA govt want to make it very, very clear that they are willing to totally destroy anyone's lives who dare publish the horrific things they're doing.

Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by k1m on Saturday June 26, 2021 @06:23PM (#27646507)
> if we're fair there's a difference between a Journalist covering leaked stuff and literally releasing the full unredacted documents to the public.

It was actually senior Guardian journalists who compromised the cables by publishing the password Assange had entrusted them with. That's what led to the unredacted copies being made available. Jonathan Cook has written about it here: https://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2020-09-26/guardian-assan...

> The Guardian book let the cat out of the bag. Once it gave away Assange’s password, the Old Bailey hearings have heard, there was no going back.

> Any security service in the world could now unlock the file containing the cables. And as they homed in on where the file was hidden at the end of the summer, Assange was forced into a desperate damage limitation operation. In September 2011 he published the unredacted cables so that anyone named in them would have advance warning and could go into hiding – before any hostile security services came looking for them.

> Yes, Assange published the cables unredacted but he did so – was forced to do so – by the unforgivable actions of Leigh and the Guardian.

Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by cachvico on Sunday June 27, 2021 @12:23AM (#27648567)
That is an extremely enlightening link.
Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by nappy on Sunday June 27, 2021 @01:47AM (#27648938)
Before the cables, there were the leaks on Afghanistan and Iraq that were unredacted.
Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by efdee on Monday June 28, 2021 @01:13PM (#27664545)
Unsufficiently redacted, not unredacted. And mostly because the Pentagon refused to assist in the redacting.
Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by DiogenesKynikos on Sunday June 27, 2021 @03:56AM (#27649531)
Both the Iraq and Afghanistan leaks were redacted.
Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by nappy on Sunday June 27, 2021 @03:09PM (#27654303)
According even to Wikileaks, no, they were not redacted

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/aug/10/afghanistan-wa...

Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by DiogenesKynikos on Sunday June 27, 2021 @05:11PM (#27655401)
> WikiLeaks withheld around 15,000 reports to protect informants.

The accusation was that the Afghan documents were not sufficiently redacted, but they were redacted. The Iraq War documents, released later, were more heavily redacted.

Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by fossuser on Saturday June 26, 2021 @03:42PM (#27645126)
I thought the latter CFFA charge is what helps to enable to former? IANAL though so I could easily be wrong about this.

Basically helping to break into the computer system moves you out of the realm of journalist and into the realm of political enemy which now makes you vulnerable to espionage.

I think there isn’t much case law around this stuff though.

Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by mywacaday on Saturday June 26, 2021 @06:17PM (#27646455)
Are there any whistleblower protections in the US or why would they not apply to Assange?
Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by DiogenesKynikos on Saturday June 26, 2021 @07:43PM (#27647078)
The Espionage Act of 1917 is an extremely broad - and almost certainly unconstitutional - law passed during WWI, which gives the government broad power to go after anyone who publishes government secrets, including journalists. WWI was a low point in the history of freedom of expression in the US, and this law is a holdover from that era.

It's bad enough that there's a law on the books that allows the US government to go after American journalists, but in this case, the US government is asserting the right to prosecute a foreign journalist who operated from outside the US. As far as I understand it, if Julian Assange is extradited, he will not be able to argue in court that WikiLeaks' publications were in the public interest.

Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by syshum on Saturday June 26, 2021 @09:04PM (#27647559)
>>The Espionage Act of 1917 ... almost certainly unconstitutional

Good luck getting the Supreme Court agreeing with that. That greatest disappointment in the entire American Experiment has to be the US Supreme Court.

That was the founders greatest mistake, vesting soo much power in this single branch

Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by jfengel on Monday June 28, 2021 @01:42PM (#27664928)
In a lot of ways, they vested practically nothing in that branch. It's by far the shortest section of the Constitution, which basically comes down to "Supreme Court: We oughta have one."

They made up their own powers. There's nothing about judicial review in the Constitution. They basically decided that they had that power, and everybody else agreed with them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marbury_v._Madison

So perhaps their greatest mistake wasn't vesting too much, but vesting too little. That left the court open to write its own job description. And also to create lifetime appointments, in theory to de-politicize it, but in practice to enshrine ideologies for many decades.

Re:Key witness in Assange case admits to lies in indictment by boomboomsubban on Saturday June 26, 2021 @09:55PM (#27647832)
Assange is not a whistleblower, it's not like he worked for the army. He's a journalist.

That said, whistleblower protection rarely covers confidential information anyway.