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Re:Disproportionate amount of bad online behaviour stems fro... by skissane on Friday June 25, 2021 @10:09PM (#27638422)
> neither of those arr particularly welcomed in the tribe they notionally dissent within

I don't think anti-Trump conservatives are particularly unwelcome in mainstream American conservatism though. Take someone like the Orthodox Christian journalist Rod Dreher, who says very negative things about Trump ("Donald Trump is flat-out lying to manipulate the political process", [0]), but who has also written a book (Live Not By Lies) claiming that American progressivism is evolving into Soviet-style totalitarianism. Getting invited on to Tucker Carlson's show is a pretty clear sign of being welcome by mainstream American conservatism, and Carlson has invited Dreher (in September last year) on to promote his book, and I'm sure the Fox News audience loved it. Carlson just avoided asking Dreher about his opinions on Trump, he knows what his audience likes and he didn't get where he is by upsetting them.

[0] https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/donald-trump-...

Re:Disproportionate amount of bad online behaviour stems fro... by dragonwriter on Friday June 25, 2021 @10:10PM (#27638427)
> Carlson just avoided asking Dreher about his opinions on Trump,

Right, there's no market for dissent, only for the tribal-conformist views.

Re:Disproportionate amount of bad online behaviour stems fro... by skissane on Friday June 25, 2021 @10:21PM (#27638482)
It could be worse though – in a more polarized environment, Tucker Carlson would feel unable to invite someone anti-Trump on to his show, even to talk about some topic unrelated to Trump. It is interesting to contemplate, that no matter how bad America's political polarization has become, it could be worse.

Actually I do wonder whether centre-left media outlets have the same freedom that Carlson has, to platform dissenters to talk about matters unrelated to their dissent.