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Re:WD My Book users wake up to find their data deleted by glenneroo on Thursday June 24, 2021 @08:13PM (#27625582)
> Cloud backup is a stupid idea. At any moment it could go dark, for any reason, and you have no recourse. Might as well bare your throat and hand some random stranger a razor.

It's not stupid but redundancy is important, don't rely on cloud only.

My own anecdata: I lost a couple TBs with Streamload[0] ~2007 when they switched over to MediaMax. They wouldn't admit it was their fault and I never got any kind of compensation - even though I had just renewed my yearly subscription a couple months prior. Thankfully I had offline backups on CD/DVD but that was definitely no fun. More recently CrashPlan decided to no longer offer unlimited backup for non-enterprise users i.e. I would have to pay a LOT more money to back up multiple TBs. At least they offered me a partial refund for the remaining months in my yearly subscription. I really really hope Backblaze keeps their unlimited plan.

As for physical backups, my 8-drive RAID-5 GPT partition got somehow nuked when I was trying out a new Windows 8 installation (one of the first official builds). I never found out what actually caused it, but I immediately went back to Windows 7 and waited for 10 to be out for a couple years before finally switching over. I'm still paranoid and keep my backup server separate and off the network except to make diff backups.

Bit-rot is also becoming a serious issue. I hope to finally build a home ZFS server (with ECC RAM of course) to deal with this, as I've noticed non-streaming encoded videos sometimes just stop working after 15+ years. I'm not sure if it's actually bit-rot but I can't think of anything else that would cause this to happen.

In any case, keep multiple backups: offline and online!

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvanix

Re:WD My Book users wake up to find their data deleted by WalterBright on Thursday June 24, 2021 @08:38PM (#27625784)
> bit rot

Hard disk drives go on sale regularly. I replace mine usually once a year or so. They're not expensive relative to the loss of the data. I just bought a 500G SSD drive on sale for $60.

Re:WD My Book users wake up to find their data deleted by crackercrews on Thursday June 24, 2021 @08:49PM (#27625845)
Do people buy SSDs for backup purposes? Sure it's fast, but isn't it better to get 6x the storage for the same price?
Re:WD My Book users wake up to find their data deleted by glenneroo on Thursday June 24, 2021 @08:59PM (#27625915)
I've read that SSDs are also generally more susceptible to data degradation earlier than spinning rust, although I'm not sure how true that is. Wikipedia[0] says:

- Solid-state media...store data using electrical charges, which can slowly leak away due to imperfect insulation.

- Magnetic media...may experience data decay as bits lose their magnetic orientation. Periodic refreshing by rewriting the data can alleviate this problem. In warm/humid conditions these media, especially those poorly protected against ambient air, are prone to the physical decomposition of the storage medium.

In either case, only ZFS/Btrfs/ReFS seem to implement strategies to deal with data corruption. Kinda sad that Apple recently released a new FS and didn't bother to address this.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_degradation

Re:WD My Book users wake up to find their data deleted by WalterBright on Thursday June 24, 2021 @09:50PM (#27626295)
These are small and very convenient, and don't need a power supply. Great for trip use. I wouldn't use them for long term storage.