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Re:Ask HN: How does a Product Manager add value? by sdevonoes on Thursday June 24, 2021 @11:32AM (#27619078)
Everybody here is talking about "good" PMs... but OP seems to be talking about regular-average PMs. In that regard, regular-average PMs bring very little value in my experience, and sometimes they get better salaries than regular-average engineers.

It's clear that "good" PMs bring value. Any "good" INSERT_ROLE_here brings value.

Re:Ask HN: How does a Product Manager add value? by revtreeleaf on Thursday June 24, 2021 @03:02PM (#27622362)
Agreed. Good (as in skilled) people bring value.