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Re:Signal not in compliance with new rules, say officials by jeswin on Thursday June 24, 2021 @09:20AM (#27616997)
They're going to get banned from the AppStore then. The end result will be Signal being forced underground with far fewer users. There's nothing Signal can do, really.

Add: and Signal's centralized server IPs banned. Signal is really weak here; shouldn't have been centralized to begin with.

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Re:Signal not in compliance with new rules, say officials by Ugohcet on Thursday June 24, 2021 @09:46AM (#27617296)
Signal can pull a Durov and start hopping popular cloud hostings and CDNs, pushing latest server IPs via FCM. This worked for a year in Russia - they banned several large subnets of AWS and DigitalOcean, millions of IPs and smaller subnets, temporarily banned Google, but in the end still gave up after a year.
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Re:Signal not in compliance with new rules, say officials by bubblethink on Thursday June 24, 2021 @09:55AM (#27617442)
Signal has already tried similar approaches (domain fronting), and had to stop because the cloud providers do not want any of it.
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Re:Signal not in compliance with new rules, say officials by ajconway on Thursday June 24, 2021 @10:03AM (#27617594)
The decentralization argument comes up fairly often in similar discussions. Assuming it was Matrix and not Signal, what advantage would there be in the current situation?
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Re:Signal not in compliance with new rules, say officials by turminal on Thursday June 24, 2021 @10:52AM (#27618464)
It'd be harder to ban existing installations I suppose.
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Re:Signal not in compliance with new rules, say officials by consumer451 on Friday June 25, 2021 @08:12AM (#27629739)
> Add: and Signal's centralized server IPs banned. Signal is really weak here; shouldn't have been centralized to begin with.

Here is Moxie's talk about this very subject, and why he thinks that decentralized products can be much weaker products.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj3YFprqAr8

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Re:Signal not in compliance with new rules, say officials by tomjen3 on Thursday June 24, 2021 @10:19AM (#27617867)
Then people will sideload it. Those who care, anyway, I don't know how many do.
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