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Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by mc32 on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @04:01PM (#27609400)
There were some very disturbing allegations against him --which is why I included his fall from grace and the good or bad.

I would just add some skepticism to the charges only because the police down there can be corrupt and or inept and subject to bribery and so on. I don't know if there has been an independent international inquiry into the matter.

Anyway, I think it's sad to see people when they throw away all the earned achievements in such a debauched way.

Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by FireBeyond on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @07:29PM (#27611904)
> I would just add some skepticism to the charges only because the police down there can be corrupt and or inept and subject to bribery and so on. I don't know if there has been an independent international inquiry into the matter.

A US federal judge found him culpable for a murder civilly.

Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by dragonwriter on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @08:55PM (#27612585)
> A US federal judge found him culpable for a murder civilly

False. A US federal judge entered a default judgement against him in a wrongful death suit. Murder is not a civil offense, the standards for civil wrongful death are not remotely the same as murder, and wrongful death liability (even based on a trial and evidence) doesn't indicate that one has even approximately committed murder. And, in any case the judgement was a default judgement because McAfee didn't answer the lawsuit, not a judgement based on evidence.

It establishes civil liability, but does not indicate anything (or even that anyone has reached any judgement) about the relevant facts.

Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by 542354234235 on Thursday June 24, 2021 @12:28PM (#27619928)
> wrongful death liability (even based on a trial and evidence) doesn't indicate that one has even approximately committed murder

This is true in general, but not true specifically for this case. A wrongful death case does not need to indicate murder, as wrongful deaths can occur for many reasons. But in this case, the award of the $20 million in punitive damages (damages to punish the defendant, not to compensate the victim) specifically were for the torture and murder, with intentional malice, of Faull.

>the judgement was a default judgement because McAfee didn't answer the lawsuit, not a judgement based on evidence.

No it wasn’t. He didn’t automatically lose because he didn’t show up. The court, specifically the United States Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit, allowed the Faull estate to petition for a default judgement due to McAfee’s continued failure to respond and due to the merits of the case presented. They did not, and would not, allow a default judgment on a meritless case.

Pdf of the actual Decision. https://regmedia.co.uk/2019/03/20/mcafee-belize.pdf

Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by FireBeyond on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @09:10PM (#27612695)
> It establishes civil liability, but does not indicate anything (or even that anyone has reached any judgement) about the relevant facts.

Hence the word culpable, and not guilty.

Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by pdpi on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @11:34PM (#27613665)
The point is that "murder" and "civil law" don't go together. Murder as a concept is always a criminal law issue.
Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by dragonwriter on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @09:36PM (#27612875)
My point was that the claim was of limited relevance in context, not that it was false.
Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by kcatskcolbdi on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @10:42PM (#27613266)
You immediately call it false in your response.
Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by dragonwriter on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @11:01PM (#27613408)
That he was found culpable is irrelevant. That it was “of murder” is false. The grandparent was focussed on the discussion of culpability in the context of the segment that was quoted in the comment it responded to.
Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by Railsify on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @08:49PM (#27612539)
A US federal judge finding anything adds no validity to the claim.
Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by JoeQuery on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @08:57PM (#27612597)
Why not?
Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by rodgerd on Thursday June 24, 2021 @01:24AM (#27614242)
Because when people say "Innocent until proven guilty", what they actually mean is "nothing will change my mind."
Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by imwillofficial on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @09:19PM (#27612752)
Not OP, but due to the low quality of judicial product lately
Re:John McAfee found dead in Spanish jail after court approv... by drdeca on Thursday June 24, 2021 @05:30AM (#27615491)
Unless it was uncorrelated, it would still be some evidence, yeah?