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Re:Is education no longer the ‘great equalizer’? by xyzzyz on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @01:05PM (#27606915)
This might have been true at some point in the past, but it is very much false now, and has been false for at least a decade or two. If local property tax revenues are low, the shortfall is made up for with state and federal funds. Just look at the data: worst performing urban schools often have more funding than better performing ones in rural areas or in smaller towns. If you don’t believe me, just show me a few examples, it shouldn’t be too hard to come up with, if the pattern is as strong and casually important as you suggest it is.
Re:Is education no longer the ‘great equalizer’? by mcguire on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @04:50PM (#27610161)
"Does School Spending Matter? The New Literature on an Old Question" (https://works.bepress.com/c_kirabo_jackson/38/)

"All but one of the several multi-state studies find a strong link between spending and outcomes –indicating that money matters on average. Importantly, this is true across studies that use different data-sets, examine different time periods, rely on different sources of variation, and employ different statistical techniques. While one can poke holes in each individual study, the robustness of the patterns across a variety of settings is compelling evidence of a real positive causal relationship between increased school spending and student outcomes on average. However, an examination of single-state studies suggests that,on average, money matters, but that this is not always so in all settings or in all contexts."

Also see "It’s not nothing: The role of money in improving education" (https://www.brookings.edu/research/its-not-nothing-the-role-...) and "How Money Matters for Schools" (https://learningpolicyinstitute.org/product/how-money-matter...).

Re:Is education no longer the ‘great equalizer’? by ARandumGuy on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @01:26PM (#27607246)
The amount of local funding for public education varies wildly from state to state. In New Mexico in 2018, only 15% of public school revenue came from local sources. However, during the same year in Nebraska, that number is 53%.

So yes, in some states differences in local property tax has a minimal effect on school funding. But in other states, the issue is still a significant issue.

Source: https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator/cma?tid=4

Re:Is education no longer the ‘great equalizer’? by xyzzyz on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @01:37PM (#27607407)
And in Nebraska, can you find a strong correlation between funding levels and schools performance? I asked you for examples, can you find any?

Importantly, if in many states the school funding is equalized, and yet we still have wide difference in performance between good and bad schools, why would anyone expect that changing funding structure in Nebraska would change school outcomes in a significant way? If school funding levels in Michigan are similar across the board, with worse performing schools getting more, not less funding than better performing ones, clearly something else than funding is responsible for these disparities, isnt it? Lastly, as funding disparities have been equalized in many places in past decades, have we ever observed lower funded schools catch up to better funded ones?

The school funding differences are quite obviously not responsible for disparities in school outcomes, and it is beyond clear to me that the entire goal of this narrative is not to improve schools, but instead to funnel more tax funds to politically allied groups, using children as a cover.

Re:Is education no longer the ‘great equalizer’? by robocat on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @02:05PM (#27607813)
> can you find a strong correlation between funding levels and schools performance

In New Zealand there is a negative correlation.

The performance of schools in New Zealand is very strongly correlated with “the decile” which is how wealthy the area where the school is located (i.e. how well off the parents are correlates with how well their children do academically).

The schools in areas of poverty get more state funding, but the results at those schools are very poor, because the parents are poor, and poor parents often cause poor students (edit: cause is the wrong word here, sorry).

Our government otherwise funds schools per student at a fairly flat per capita rate, so there is not the variation in school funding (ignoring private schools) like that which occurs in the US.

I am just pointing out that in New Zealand the main correlation for average student ability is their home, not their school.

Re:Is education no longer the ‘great equalizer’? by xyzzyz on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @03:36PM (#27609025)
> I am just pointing out that in New Zealand the main correlation for average student ability is their home, not their school.

Right. Whatever the casual mechanism is at play, increasing funding of schools is not going to make much of a difference for the kids -- it will, though, for employees of the school systems.

Re:Is education no longer the ‘great equalizer’? by coryrc on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @01:15PM (#27607068)
To supplant your point:

Detroit Public Schools per-pupil funding: $15,891

Average Michigan per-pupil funding: $13,457

https://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/underfunded-detr...