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Re:Welcome to Nomehenge, Home to Alaska’s Soviet-Era Antennas by walrus01 on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @10:17AM (#27604813)
tropo scatter antenna systems for point-to-point over the horizon data links still exist, and are not as absolutely gigantic (but are still huge and unwieldy compared to portable two way satellite):

https://www.militaryaerospace.com/communications/article/140...

https://www.mwrf.com/technologies/systems/article/21846099/t...

You still need REALLY high power amplifiers on the Tx on each end (not too much different from a giant high power tx amp on like a 7.3 meter two-way geostationary satellite earth station). The modems are a lot better than they used to be. Better use of advanced FEC and adaptive coding/modulation systems, very similar also to advanced two way SCPC/MCPC type two way satellite modems. Some of the same manufacturers make subsystems for both industry segments.

One of the reasons why the US DoD is so enthusiastic about Starlink (and when available, LEO systems from telesat, oneweb, etc) is that future polar orbit coverage will provide a huge amount of bandwidth to sites at very high latitudes where using geostationary-based systems is problematic due to elevation angles.

some links for historical stuff related to data/comms for radar sites in alaska and northern canada:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distant_Early_Warning_Line

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Warning_System

Re:Welcome to Nomehenge, Home to Alaska’s Soviet-Era Antennas by jacquesm on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @11:55AM (#27605977)
I think one of the main reasons why they are so enthusiastic about it is that the cost of these satellites is low enough that there are so many of them that taking them out is much harder than with even the most hardened military satellites of which there will never be significant numbers. If the cost of the munition outweighs the cost of the satellite then your satellite network is pretty safe.
Re:Welcome to Nomehenge, Home to Alaska’s Soviet-Era Antennas by walrus01 on Thursday June 24, 2021 @09:39AM (#27617203)
That is a good point, and generally they want as many paths/redundancies as possible. The DoD has its own molniya orbit satellites, quite recently launched, but capacity is limited.
Re:Welcome to Nomehenge, Home to Alaska’s Soviet-Era Antennas by blantonl on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @11:40AM (#27605793)
A very active tropo scatter system still in use today is the SNOTEL network, which are snow level and precipitation sensors spread all throughout very remote and mountainous terrain in the Western US and Canada.

They operate on 40.67 MHz are still actively in operation today.

https://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/snow/

Re:Welcome to Nomehenge, Home to Alaska’s Soviet-Era Antennas by walrus01 on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @12:43PM (#27606567)
I imagine the information needed for small integer data from a sensor of rainfall mm/hour and snow gauge, etc is a very low data rate... What channel widths and modulations are they using in the 40MHz bands?
Re:Welcome to Nomehenge, Home to Alaska’s Soviet-Era Antennas by blantonl on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @01:31PM (#27607314)
Snotel is a 9 khz channel bandwidth, BPSK data at 4000 bits per second