College campuses are where you are supposed to be confronted with challenging ideas and different perspectives. That's one of their great gifts. But even mainstream Jerry Seinfeld, who created one of the most popular sitcoms of all time and doesn't even swear, is now considered too controversial?
It's not just him. Dave Chappelle and many other comedians have been saying the same thing about college audiences.
Jerry Seinfeld was relevant in the 90s, and Chappelle in the 2000s.
Jerry keeps dating 18 year old girls, and Chappelle can't seem to restrain himself from shitting on trans folks.
Sorry, these heroes suck.
Chappelle is one of the biggest comics alive. The people who are bothered by trans jokes are a small, humorless minority.
Patton Oswalt's version got chuckles out of me though. His take was basically "I'm on your side, I'm just old and don't know what you're talking about", which is at least poking fun at the incredulity, rather than the variety.
They don't blacklist anything on college campuses anymore. They naughtylist it, disallowlist it, or ungoodlist it... presumably so anyone descended from regicides won't be triggered by Charles II of England's words appearing out of context.
So tell me so good trans jokes and change my mind, eh?
Having that powerful of a chokehold on media and search results is the opposite of "persecuted" and "disenfranchised". On the contrary, that's a terrifying amount of political clout and power to steer discourse.
Yay because being trans is all about being raunchy hey ho!
OK, here's my own joke. I'm trans and this is a trans joke taken from, like, life, dude.
There's this guy sitting with four ladies and another guy and he starts saying how he knows a tranny when he sees one.
"I mean, they all have like, what, size-7 feet? I mean come on, it's so obvious!"
"I got size 7 feet" says one of the ladies.
The guy blinks once, then goes on:
"And their hands! Have you seen their hands? They're like two times the size of my hands!"
The second lady holds up her hands. "My hands are bigger than your hands".
The guy pauses for a mere second and goes on.
"But the dead give-away is their voices. They have loud, booming, bass voices..."
"I can sing in the entire baritone vocal range" says the third lady.
The guy stops, clears his throat, looks around, then leans in conspiratorially.
"You know what's the real way to tell a trannie apart? They can explain the offside rule in soccer".
"That's easy" says the fourth lady. "A player is in an offside position if any of their body parts, except the hands and arms, are in the opponents' half of the pitch, and closer to the opponents' goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent".
The guy is now sweeating bricks. He turns to look at each of them carefully.
"OK" he says. "Was even a single one of you born female"?
"Sure" says the other guy. "I was".
Badum-tish.
To be fair, while that is a common attitude toward trans identity, it’s also a common attitude toward humor (that is, lots of people equate good jokes with raunchy ones.) It’s hard to tell which consideration is in play.
> "That's easy" says the fourth lady. "A player is in an offside position if any of their body parts, except the hands and arms, are in the opponents' half of the pitch, and closer to the opponents' goal line than both the ball and the second-last opponent".
<ex-ref> But that is just explaining offside position, which is only part of the offside rule. </ex-ref>
The presentation is solid, but I trip over the fact that all the ladies are trans and they validate the dude's assertions.
This one reminds me of the old joke about Jews controlling the media. One jewish man asks another why he's reading all those tabloids that are full of antisemitic lies. The othere one replies that no matter how bad things are in real life, the newspapers always make him feel great because according to them the Jews control the banks, the media, the world governments and everything else.
I'm full of jokes today.
Trans people are literally being legislated today and actively demonized by the right. Do you remember the trans bathroom laws that were all the rage? Do you remember all the attacks by trans people that precipitated them? No, because it's manufactured fear.
You finding pages of individuals speaking out against that and that's terrifying? More manufactured fear.
As to the subject I replied to, Chappelle's jokes, it's addressed here: https://www.indiewire.com/2018/01/dave-chappelle-transgender...
Hooo haw, laugh riot over being tricked to have sex with a tranny! And that Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner, that really grosses me out!? Hee hee hee.
Sorry, but that shit's puerile at best.
First joke aside (which I'd guess is older material than the rest) if you stick with him and don't cherrypick quotes, it's almost entirely self-deprecating. Even in the Caitlyn Jenner joke, the punchline rests on him acknowledging his own failure to resist his impulses. Don't forget the layer where he is acting out the role of a horrible, insensitive person throughout this so the audience can laugh at his oversimplification and ignorance. That's a big part of comedy and it does not translate over to quotations in prose.
Hopefully I didn't kill the frog, but he's absolutely not punching down from what I could find.
What would make those 18 jokes funnier? If they were more degrading?
EDIT: Just to be clear, are you implying active censorship of search results at Google? Or do you just not understand Pagerank?
If your humor is subservient to your social/political beliefs, you don't have a sense of humor.
Nopes, it's not. I'm just more evolved than you.
Maybe you should look into yourself and question what caused you to interpret it that way.
Have fun with the 18 year olds.
AFAIK, he is only know to have done that once (and they first met and went out, though Seinfeld said later that they weren't “dating” yet, when she was 17, not 18.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YWuD9RwJD4
The problem is in the education system, I don't think denying it helps anyone.
Billionaire Jerry Seinfeld can't seem to relate to the kids these days, blames the kids.