Re:Humans are more dependent on water than many other mammals
by urxvtcd on Monday June 21, 2021 @12:25PM
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I just looked it up and found this pdf[0] on some technique for divers I didn't bother to understand, but it contains an instruction (Step 3: Learn to control the soft palate) how to get a feel for this. It's not really nostrils, but I think this is what GP meant.
[0]: https://freedivewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/frenzel....
Re:Humans are more dependent on water than many other mammals
by drewmol on Monday June 21, 2021 @01:18PM
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I'm no professional diver but thinking about it and reading that link, it's really a technique to maintain enough pressure inside the nasal cavity to prevent water from rushing in, achieved by closing the soft pallet then slowly moving air into the nasal cavity as needed to maintain that pressure. So not really closing nostrils (for me at least) just restricting them a bit I think... it still sucks to get water past the nostrils but that can be prevented and it's not something I've really had to think about before. When diving into water or changing depth I have to exhale hard through the nose to combat the surge of water pressure but after that it just happens.
Re:Humans are more dependent on water than many other mammals
by mckeed on Monday June 21, 2021 @12:29PM
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I do it by pushing my top lip up against my nostrils. I look silly if there's someone with goggles on to see me underwater, though. Like an extreme duck face.
Also, it doesn't work well now that I have a mustache.
Re:Humans are more dependent on water than many other mammals
by skohan on Monday June 21, 2021 @12:19PM
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You can't? Have you tried it?
Re:Humans are more dependent on water than many other mammals
by Majestic121 on Monday June 21, 2021 @12:23PM
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I'm not sure how to start trying it. I can move my nostrils a bit, but it's more to expand them : I don't have any muscle 'plugging' them it seems
Or are you supposed to plug from the inside, with your tongue blocking the top of the mouth kind of ?
Re:Humans are more dependent on water than many other mammals
by checkyoursudo on Monday June 21, 2021 @12:31PM
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I don’t know about others but I don’t use my tongue. I can block my nasal passage and breathe through my mouth. I can have my mouth wide open and do this. It must be controlled by some muscle but I don’t know what.
Re:Humans are more dependent on water than many other mammals
by robofanatic on Monday June 21, 2021 @01:50PM
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you can either breath through nose or mouth not simultaneously. I thought this is normal ..
Re:Humans are more dependent on water than many other mammals
by checkyoursudo on Monday June 21, 2021 @05:26PM
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I am pretty sure I am breathing through both right now (trying on purpose to do so). I can definitely feel the breath on my tongue and hold something to my nose and smell it.
Whether air from both places actually goes into my lungs? That, I don't know. So you may be right in that regard? I really don't know. :)
Re:Humans are more dependent on water than many other mammals
by FartyMcFarter on Monday June 21, 2021 @02:21PM
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Are you sure about that? I don't think that's true, not for everyone at least.
Re:Humans are more dependent on water than many other mammals
by sudosysgen on Monday June 21, 2021 @02:11PM
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I can breathe through the nose, the mouth, and also through both at the same time.
Re:Humans are more dependent on water than many other mammals
by robofanatic on Monday June 21, 2021 @03:51PM
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"both at the same time" blew my mind!
That's the coolest thing since a friend showed me he could move his ears.