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Re:JPEG XL by londons_explore on Monday June 21, 2021 @05:28AM (#27577592)
Oh look, another barely used image format alongside WebP, Animated PNG, AVIF, JPEG2000, and a bunch of others so obscure I forgot them.

It seems image formats have ossified. Nobody cares if the images are 50% smaller because storage and network are cheap enough not to deal with the hassle of using a non-standard image format.

Re:JPEG XL by jonsneyers on Monday June 21, 2021 @06:42AM (#27577933)
If nobody would care, then how do you explain all the effort that went into MozJPEG, WebP, BPG, FLIF, HEIC, AVIF and JPEG XL?

Do you really think people are working on improved image compression just for fun, and not because "somebody actually cares"?

Also, it is not just about compression, it is also about functionality. HDR displays are a thing, images with alpha transparency are also a thing. There just is no way to properly do HDR and alpha without "dealing with the hassle of using a non-standard image format", unless you think 16-bit PNGs are a good idea for the web.

Re:JPEG XL by londons_explore on Monday June 21, 2021 @06:52AM (#27577978)
Neat... But the only image on this page (the logo) is still a gif, an image format from 33 years ago, without any updates for 32 years.
Re:JPEG XL by jonsneyers on Monday June 21, 2021 @07:22AM (#27578133)
Sure, if you don't need images, then that's fine and you obviously don't need a new codec. There is a significant chunk of the web though that does make significant use of images.
Re:JPEG XL by mschuster91 on Monday June 21, 2021 @05:33AM (#27577611)
I would not call JPEG2000 being "barely used" - it is the standard format for all digital cinema movie packages.
Re:JPEG XL by snovv_crash on Monday June 21, 2021 @05:43AM (#27577651)
Its also heavily used in the medical imaging field for radiographs etc
Re:JPEG XL by detaro on Monday June 21, 2021 @05:49AM (#27577681)
also for aerial photography images.
Re:JPEG XL by ianlevesque on Monday June 21, 2021 @05:41AM (#27577644)
What is a digital cinema movie package?
Re:JPEG XL by KaiserPro on Monday June 21, 2021 @05:51AM (#27577687)
To simplify its a tar with jpeg2000s as an image stream, plus audio and some metadata.

Its then (usually, but it is optional) encrypted to make sure that its hard to copy. The keys are sent directly to each projector to allow time limited, and or other limited use.

The reason why its used is because it optimized for quality, rather than size. It also allows custom colour spaces and other tweaks to maintain/enforce colour correctness/image quality.

Re:JPEG XL by speedgoose on Monday June 21, 2021 @05:50AM (#27577682)
Cinemas don't use consumer grave video compression like h265, instead each frame is a jpeg 2000 image. It's heavy.
Re:JPEG XL by layoutIfNeeded on Monday June 21, 2021 @05:48AM (#27577677)
Re:JPEG XL by detaro on Monday June 21, 2021 @05:46AM (#27577668)
The data format used to send movies to cinemas.
Re:JPEG XL by tusharpandey13 on Monday June 21, 2021 @06:05AM (#27577759)
So just halt innovation because a fraction of the internet's users have fast connection speeds?
Re:JPEG XL by hulitu on Monday June 21, 2021 @06:25AM (#27577859)
> So just halt innovation because a fraction of the internet's users have fast connection speeds?

Inovation ? Will it make life easier for people ? No. You still need to update. Will the page load faster ? No page still has 30 Mb at 50 kbps. Lossless ? Same as PNG. Lossy - same as JPG. So what is the inovation ? That with 20 threads on an Epyc is very fast ? How about my 1ghz phone with 4 cores ?

Re:JPEG XL by lucasmullens on Monday June 21, 2021 @03:25PM (#27583145)
Lots of users in the world are still on 2G/3G and would greatly benefit from a faster image format.

> Lossless ? Same as PNG. Lossy - same as JPG.

This is incorrect, JPEG XL is smaller.

Also why do you put spaces before your question marks? It makes your post look rushed.