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Re:Nixos-unstable’s ISO_minimal.x86_64-Linux is 100% reprodu... by cookiengineer on Sunday June 20, 2021 @11:53PM (#27576153)
Actually, being able to build projects much easier from GitHub is the sole reason why I'm currently using Arch as my main OS.

Building a project is just a shell script with a couple of defined functions. Quite literally.

I really admire NixOS's philosophy of pushing the boundaries as a distro where everything, including configurations and modifications, can be done in a reproducible manner. They're basically trying to automate the review process down the line, which is absurdly complex as a challenge.

And given stability and desktop integrations improve over time, I really think that Nix has the potential to be the base for easily forkable distributions. Building a live/bootable distro will be so much easier, as everything is just a set of configuration files anyways.

Re:Nixos-unstable’s ISO_minimal.x86_64-Linux is 100% reprodu... by takeda on Monday June 21, 2021 @02:55AM (#27576931)
This is slightly different thing. Nix and NixOS are trying to solve multiple things, and that's what it might be a bit confusing.

Many people don't realize that, but if you get for example mentioned project from github and I do and we compile it on our machines we get a different file (it'll work the same but it won't be exactly the same).

Say we use the same dependencies, we still will get a different files, because maybe you used slightly different version of the compiler, or maybe those dependencies were compiled with different dependencies or compilers. Maybe the project while building inserts a date, or pulls some file. There are million ways that we would end up with different files.

The goal here is to get bit by bit identical files and it's like a Holy Grail in this area. NixOS just appears to achieved that and all packages that come with the system are now fully reproducible.

Re:Nixos-unstable’s ISO_minimal.x86_64-Linux is 100% reprodu... by eru on Monday June 21, 2021 @03:32AM (#27577089)
A rich source of non-reproducibility is non-determinism introduced by parallel building.

Preserving parallel execution, but arriving at deterministic outputs, is an interesting and ongoing challenge. With a rich mathematical structure, too.