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Re:Nixos-unstable’s ISO_minimal.x86_64-Linux is 100% reprodu... by 1vuio0pswjnm7 on Sunday June 20, 2021 @07:31PM (#27574759)
"- Build from source. This will always be a deeply niche thing to do. It's slow, inconvenient, and inaccessible except to nerds."

I prefer compiling from source to binary packages. For me it is neither slow, incovenient nor inaccessible.

Only with larger, more complex programs does compiling from source become a PITA.

The "solution" I take is to prefer smaller, less complex programs over larger, more complex ones.

If I cannot compile a program from source relatively quickly and easily, I do not voluntarily choose it as a program to use daily and depend on.

For compiling OS, I use NetBSD so perhaps I am spoiled because it is relatively easy to compile.

That said, I understand the value of reproducible builds and appreciate the work being done on such projects.

Re:Nixos-unstable’s ISO_minimal.x86_64-Linux is 100% reprodu... by kixiQu on Sunday June 20, 2021 @07:44PM (#27574825)
"except to nerds" was conversationally phrased shorthand for "except to people with rarefied technical skills".
Re:Nixos-unstable’s ISO_minimal.x86_64-Linux is 100% reprodu... by kaba0 on Sunday June 20, 2021 @07:49PM (#27574862)
You don’t use a browser or an office suite? Because those are a pain in the ass to compile (in terms of time).
Re:Nixos-unstable’s ISO_minimal.x86_64-Linux is 100% reprodu... by 1vuio0pswjnm7 on Sunday June 20, 2021 @08:27PM (#27575062)
Not just time, IME. Also 1. highly resource intensive, e.g., cannot compile on small form factor computers (easier for me to compile a kernel than a "modern" browser) and 2. brittle.
Re:Nixos-unstable’s ISO_minimal.x86_64-Linux is 100% reprodu... by vore on Sunday June 20, 2021 @08:17PM (#27575017)
I think using NetBSD might put you in the nerd camp ;-)
Re:Nixos-unstable’s ISO_minimal.x86_64-Linux is 100% reprodu... by brigandish on Sunday June 20, 2021 @07:55PM (#27574901)
Unfortunately, it's easy to break a lot of builds by things such as deciding not to install to /usr/local, or by building on a Mac. Pushing publishers to practices that aid reproducible builds would help both sides.

I'd love to try building NetBSD, btw, I must try that!

Re:Nixos-unstable’s ISO_minimal.x86_64-Linux is 100% reprodu... by zucker42 on Sunday June 20, 2021 @11:05PM (#27575892)
Don't take this the wrong way, but I think you qualify as a nerd. :)