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Re:MPs: Octopuses feel pain and need legal protection by liaukovv on Sunday June 20, 2021 @12:42PM (#27571696)
Taste is a proxy for nutrition. Murdering people is bad not because of some abstract causing of pain or whatever(otherwise youd have nothing against killing people with heroin would you?) but because murder begets murder, making existence of organized society very hard and inefficient. Killing animals doesn't cause such problems so it's irrelevant.

Meat animals exist to be killed.

Re:MPs: Octopuses feel pain and need legal protection by nsonha on Sunday June 20, 2021 @02:19PM (#27572551)
> Taste is a proxy for nutrition

Please explain ketchup

> Murdering people is bad not because of some abstract causing of pain

Let’s just say it’s not, pain and suffering are still bad things youd want to minimize

You could say that the bad thing about death isn’t pain itself but the lost of life (otherwise an instant death would not be bad), based on the axiom that life is a good thing. You could also make your own axiom that only human lives are good.

> murder begets murder, making existence of organized society very hard and inefficient

So massacring uncivilized tribals that are not part of your organized society, like in the colonial days, is OK?

Re:MPs: Octopuses feel pain and need legal protection by EvilEy3 on Sunday June 20, 2021 @03:20PM (#27573082)
> Please explain ketchup

Do you eat ketchup without anything? It has little value on its own.

> So massacring uncivilized tribals that are not part of your organized society, like in the colonial days, is OK?

Am I back to country side? Why is there so much straw here?

Re:MPs: Octopuses feel pain and need legal protection by klyrs on Sunday June 20, 2021 @03:21PM (#27573087)
> Meat animals exist to be killed.

Says one meatbag to another...