Age is being used as a really sloppy proxy for safety features, when a lot of these things were completely standard 10 years ago. As mentioned in another post, a 2009 Range Rover came with every major safety feature.
A lot of the more recent improvements seem to be trying to compensate for either gross driver failures or much reduced visibility with modern vehicle designs. It will be interesting to see whether they end up significantly improving safety overall or just cancelling out the negative effects of less careful driving and less visibility.
Didn't have any airbags at all. Not illegal in the rest of the world but I think they didn't sell them in the US.
The UK, but it was the same model they sold everywhere that they sold them.
This 2009 Land Rover model had front, side, and overhead airbags, ESC, ABS, etc.
But the model I had didn't, and didn't anywhere it was sold. Do you think I'm mistaken about my own car or something?
So you are most certainly mistaken about the claim that it is sold "everywhere", although you have since edited that to be restricted to "where they sold them" which conveniently excludes all the places where it simply couldn't be sold.
I'm obviously not going to be mistaken about my own car, am I?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover_Defender#2012_updat...
Selling as late as 2016 with no air bags, in many Western first-world nations, obviously including such as the UK where it was built, but I think also France, Germany, etc.
In fact they even specifically say:
> However, safety regulations due for introduction in 2015 requiring minimum pedestrian safety standards and the fitment of airbags to commercial vehicles cannot be met without a wholesale redesign of the Defender.
Another source.
https://www.carbuyer.co.uk/reviews/land-rover/defender/sport...
Which says:
> it was never fitted with any airbags
And we can see when you edit your comments, because I already quoted them.
The original claim you wrote 'So either your vehicle was sold in no first-world nations, or you are indeed mistaken.' is clearly false.
It's funny that you bring up editing, because the single thing I was replying to was your original claim that your airbag-less vehicle was the same model they sold "everywhere" (which you later edited because of course the vehicle was illegal in a number of nations). I never contested that you bought some bizarrely outdated vehicle in the UK in 2009. If I edited a comment, I made it more accurate immediately, and it's incredibly strange that you think you've caught me out.
I truly don't care about your strange retro vehicle. But in this conversation it is so hilariously irrelevant to the context.
Yeah everywhere they sold the Defender, they sold it without airbags. That's always what I said, and it's true.
> I never contested that you bought some bizarrely outdated vehicle in the UK in 2009
You said 'your vehicle was sold in no first-world nations'. This a demonstrably untrue statement, because it was sold in at least the UK.
It's not as crazy as it sounds; with the front-impact ones, wearing your seatbelt works about as well, and you don't have to worry about Takata syndrome.
This was apparently because at that point, manufacturers could get out of putting in front airbags if they put in those automatic should belts. Not sure when that was tightened up.