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Re:MPs: Octopuses feel pain and need legal protection by uh_uh on Sunday June 20, 2021 @10:24AM (#27570306)
No contradictions here. You don't even have to go to the animal realm. There are some humans who are capable of empathy towards some people but happily inflict pain on other people. This however should not be an argument for the rest of us to behave in a cruel manner towards anybody.
Re:MPs: Octopuses feel pain and need legal protection by hdnkdksms on Sunday June 20, 2021 @12:23PM (#27571537)
-Some- humans? Have some humility. Everyone shows empathy towards some and aggression towards others.

Not everyone deserves empathy, either.

Re:MPs: Octopuses feel pain and need legal protection by amanaplanacanal on Sunday June 20, 2021 @04:04PM (#27573412)
> Not everyone deserves empathy, either.

Could you expand on that? I’m always curious to understand how other people think about these issues.

If I see people that are with causing folks around them pain, of whatever type, my usual suspicion is that they suffered some sort of massive pain or trauma themselves that they never found a healthy way to deal with.

Re:MPs: Octopuses feel pain and need legal protection by Dracophoenix on Sunday June 20, 2021 @06:21PM (#27574405)
I'm not the GP, but I think what he means to say is that the in the realms of human nature and free association, empathy is not a default nor should is it required to be. My expansion on this thinking is that, with respect to Earth's total population, there are very few that one would concern himself with and, thus, fewer still who are granted any such depth of thought that could be considered empathy.