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Re:Brave, the false sensation of privacy by jonathansampson on Friday June 18, 2021 @01:38PM (#27552820)
This is the law; it's not Brave's design. Our design enables you to opt-in, earn, and give to content creators without having to provide any information. The law, however, requires and compels Brave to add KYC into the mix when you wish to self-fund or cash out. Anti-money laundering is not something we can or would circumvent.
Re:Brave, the false sensation of privacy by minsc__and__boo on Friday June 18, 2021 @02:48PM (#27553551)
Seems like a pretty important piece of information to share with potential users up front though, for something marketing itself with a privacy focus.
Re:Brave, the false sensation of privacy by BrendanEich on Monday June 21, 2021 @04:30PM (#27584028)
No, because KYC is not mandatory to use rewards and anonymously contribute to your favorite sites and channels. Only if you want to add funds or take out some or all of your revshare is it required. It's not required by default, which is why it should not be advertised as if mandatory. HTH
Re:Brave, the false sensation of privacy by minsc__and__boo on Tuesday June 22, 2021 @11:14AM (#27592705)
>KYC is not mandatory... except when you want to add or take out funds.

This is Brave's own cryptocurrency that they use to sell their privacy-based browser. It's an important distinction.

Re:Brave, the false sensation of privacy by unityByFreedom on Friday June 18, 2021 @08:10PM (#27556511)
Lol. This is like Tesla saying regulations prevent them from releasing full self driving. Don't advertise something you can't deliver.
Re:Brave, the false sensation of privacy by jonathansampson on Monday June 21, 2021 @04:31PM (#27584034)
We deliver exactly what we advertise; users can enjoy the default ad-free experience, or opt-in, earn, and support content creators across the Web. Nowhere in our marketing or elsewhere do we suggest you can anonymously receive cash from companies like Amazon, Twitch, Walmart, etc.
Re:Brave, the false sensation of privacy by unityByFreedom on Monday June 21, 2021 @08:02PM (#27586186)
You don't have the ability to offer private money collection and your advertising should reflect that.
Re:Brave, the false sensation of privacy by CRConrad on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @05:37AM (#27602559)
He just said they don't advertise the ability to offer private money collection. Are you claiming they do? If not, then it would seem their advertising already correctly reflects this fact.
Re:Brave, the false sensation of privacy by unityByFreedom on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @07:47AM (#27603325)
They claim to be a privacy focused browser that can pay users via cryptocurrency. Yet there is no point to pay via cryptocurrency when there is no privacy for receiving it.
Re:Brave, the false sensation of privacy by CRConrad on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @08:50PM (#27612541)
As I understood it, they claim to be a privacy focused browser that distributes some sort of currency-like tokens to users, which the users can then distribute to websites they want to reward, or optionally pay out as cryptocurrency to recipients that may (or may not?) be identical with the users themselves.

That this optional payout requires identification seems to be A) a legal requirement, and B) an implementation detail of second-rank importance in the grand scheme of things.

Feels far-fetched to get one's knickers in a bunch over stuff like that not being at the forefront of their marketing.

Re:Brave, the false sensation of privacy by unityByFreedom on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @09:56PM (#27612991)
Knickers to you may be outer garments to others. This browser has made a habit of asking users to interpret their actions "the right" way.

Look, maybe this is a good idea, and it is the future of getting people to pay for stuff like news or software. If so then they need someone who understands that vision and can project it with confidence. Right now I have no idea who runs Brave or what person I would look to for understanding their goals. For such an innovative concept you really do need a visible delivery vehicle with whom people can relate.

Re:Brave, the false sensation of privacy by bhearsum2 on Friday June 18, 2021 @01:45PM (#27552894)
You could still the user of this during onboarding, or before the start seeing any BAT ads.
Re:Brave, the false sensation of privacy by RhodoGSA on Monday June 21, 2021 @02:56AM (#27576934)
This is false. it is not a law. KYC is required for 3k+ and only in select countries. Brave is international.