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Re:On Depression and Founders by brag on Thursday June 17, 2021 @08:27PM (#27545999)
Can you expand on your experience? any particular lessons you learned? Seems like you had all the conventional marks of success, I find it hard to believe that that was all for naught.
Re:On Depression and Founders by okareaman on Thursday June 17, 2021 @09:44PM (#27546557)
It wasn't all for naught, but success is not going to completely fill the hole inside. Lesson? It's simple, don't work all the time and neglect your family. I cringe everytime I hear Musk talking about working 100 hours a week. He has kids by previous marriages afaik, but it sounds to me like he's not much more than a sperm donor. He's a terrible role model for fathers. I worked probably 70 to 80 hours a week for 9 years. My son has a lot of complaints about me not being there and he's right. The only thing I can say to him is that I'm here now.
Re:On Depression and Founders by dluan on Friday June 18, 2021 @01:41AM (#27547684)
I've found lots of founders either become 1) big time family people, or 2) small grocery store operators, or 3) heavily radicalized leftists.
Re:On Depression and Founders by ZephyrBlu on Friday June 18, 2021 @03:44AM (#27548236)
One of these is not like the others.
Re:On Depression and Founders by robocat on Thursday June 17, 2021 @11:05PM (#27546960)
It sounds a bit like you personally reached high status, then discovered that status is hollow. Was that a big part of it?

Do you think you would have been as disappointed if you had ignored your goals and settled for a more “normal” life?

Re:On Depression and Founders by elevenoh on Friday June 18, 2021 @04:24AM (#27548450)
>personally reached high status

when 'high status' is the benchmark, there's going to be an element of let-down & disgust with one's self on arriving.

i'm seeing less and less smart people think in terms of status.

Re:On Depression and Founders by brudgers on Thursday June 17, 2021 @10:16PM (#27546723)
I'm confident you will be there for him in the future too.
Re:On Depression and Founders by brudgers on Thursday June 17, 2021 @08:54PM (#27546175)
Maybe it was whose definition of “success” the person was pursuing…conventional definitions are conventional because people accept them without deep reflection on whether they are right for them. They are easier to adopt than to question.

Or a problem with winning the rat race is you have to be a rat.

Unhappiness is worse than for naught.

Re:On Depression and Founders by okareaman on Thursday June 17, 2021 @10:05PM (#27546670)
If you've seen Breaking Bad (if not, I'm not spoiling much) there is a scene where he tells his wife "I did it all for the family" and she disgustingly turns her head away and says something like "You did it for your own ego. You didn't care about us." It's kind of like that.
Re:On Depression and Founders by brudgers on Thursday June 17, 2021 @10:15PM (#27546717)
I apologize for mischaracterizing your experience. I am sorry.

I hope you are healing.