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Re:Start Your Own ISP by grahamburger on Thursday June 17, 2021 @11:55AM (#27541011)
Related in both cases. SYOISP describes what I, as a somewhat opinionated author, believe to be the absolute minimum amount of information required to build a business that can be called an ISP. To the extent that the companies involved in meshcenter.org and also Starry are ISPs, there is definitely overlap.
Re:Start Your Own ISP by ignoramous on Thursday June 17, 2021 @01:02PM (#27541839)
> SYOISP describes what I, as a somewhat opinionated author, believe to be the absolute minimum amount of information required to build a business that can be called an ISP.

Thanks. Then, what'd you say are key differences between meshcenter.org and syoisp? Curious because meshcenter goes for maintainability and affordability too, from what I gather.

Also, has Facebook's foray into the space with https://telecominfraproject.com (and Google's too with https://opennetworking.org/) change the landscape? They're going after 4G/5G like deployments, which is in sharp contrast with what starry and meshcenter are doing?

Re:Start Your Own ISP by grahamburger on Thursday June 17, 2021 @01:29PM (#27542115)
> Then, what'd you say are key differences between meshcenter.org and syoisp?

No big differences, everything is applicable to both. In practice 'Mesh' has kind of become associated with 'non-profit, volunteer staff,' and SYOISP makes the implicit assumption of a for-profit entity.

> Also, has Facebook's foray into the space with https://telecominfraproject.com (and Google's too with https://opennetworking.org/) change the landscape? They're going after 4G/5G like deployments, which is in sharp contrast with what starry and meshcenter are doing?

Unsure yet what these efforts (and I'll add Microsoft's Airband) will amount too. I will say that I don't really see them tackling the actual hard parts of improving connectivity, which is primarily the actual building of physical infrastructure. I mean, other than Google obviously doing so with Google Fiber. Software can only get you so far in this effort, which is I think a lot of the reason that the incumbent providers have maintained such a stronghold over modern tech companies.

Re:Start Your Own ISP by slut on Thursday June 17, 2021 @07:48PM (#27545760)
I'm working on connectivity stuff at Facebook. Facebook is doing quite a bit more than just 4g/5g like deployments but the focus is primarily outside the US. We do have some public tools that I think are especially relevant to your effort: https://www.facebook.com/isptoolbox it's actively being worked on and there are many unreleased features in development but would be happy for any feedback too. Hope it's helpful.
Re:Start Your Own ISP by ignoramous on Wednesday June 23, 2021 @03:49AM (#27601921)
Are there any research papers or publications (like blogs) detailing Facebook's efforts in this space?