Re:The evolution of Smalltalk: from Smalltalk-72 through Squ...
by e12e on Thursday June 17, 2021 @12:11PM
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> I think most people would agree that the benefits of Smalltalk the language are inextricable from the runtime environment and GUI.
Most, not all: https://www.gnu.org/software/smalltalk/manual/html_node/Over...
Although it looks like somewhere along the path with the "new" graphical browser they dropped the tag line "Smalltalk for those who can type".
Rails is a monster, and historically pretty poor ruby code quality INMHO. That said, ruby does indeed miss an "image" concept, but is quite dynamic and object oriented. Some smalltalk patterns would work well with ruby, I think.
There's also (the abandoned?) maglev ruby on top of gemstone/s object db for smalltalk.
Re:The evolution of Smalltalk: from Smalltalk-72 through Squ...
by setpatchaddress on Thursday June 17, 2021 @12:37PM
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I dunno what most people think about the benefits of Smalltalk, but I do know that people think Ruby and Objective-C are part of the Smalltalk lineage because they use the Smalltalk object model and have similar dynamic properties.
Ruby has no such thing: it's pretty much only used for Rails and plain-jane Unix scripting. It's fair to judge the language in context of its actual applications.