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Re:Kids need freedom, too by spaetzleesser on Wednesday June 16, 2021 @06:49PM (#27534374)
There are plenty of stupid cyclists who don’t prioritize their own safety. One of my pet peeves is to have bikes on the road in the dark without lights. Most of these people are adults and they should know that a car driver can’t see them.
Re:Kids need freedom, too by mips_avatar on Thursday June 17, 2021 @12:55PM (#27541747)
Cycling lights are the law in most places in Europe, it probably should be enforced in the US as well.
Re:Kids need freedom, too by aliasEli on Saturday June 19, 2021 @02:57PM (#27563304)
Just a curious question. Cycling lights are indeed the law in most parts of Europe[0]. Are there no laws in the US about cycling laws or are they not enforced?

[0] In my country cycling lights are traditionally used are traditionally used as a training ground for new police officers. These officers have to explain why you are actually breaking the law and also have to deal in a correct manner in the abuse from the perpetrators.

Re:Kids need freedom, too by ornornor on Thursday June 17, 2021 @02:16AM (#27536610)
Yeah cycling without lights always amazed me.

At the same time, idiotic cyclists are only risking their own lives and that’s it. Idiotic drivers are risking other people’s lives but not their own.

When there is a crash between and a car and a bike that involves a fatality, 100% of the time that fatality is the cyclist and not the driver.

Re:Kids need freedom, too by AstralStorm on Thursday June 17, 2021 @03:16AM (#27536954)
95% is closer to reality. Sometimes a driver trying to avoid a crash will do something wrong and get injured with no harm to cyclist or pedestrian.

Or will harm someone else than the perpetrator.

Re:Kids need freedom, too by ornornor on Thursday June 17, 2021 @03:30AM (#27537026)
It’s still overwhelmingly other people than the driver who pay the price.