If you think psychological science is bad, imagine how bad it was in 1999

Re:If you think psychological science is bad, imagine how ba... by fnord123 on Wednesday June 16, 2021 @03:29PM (#27532464)

When you think about it, it's insane that metametascience isn't studied more. We're going to question every little detail about the scientific process, but we're just going to take on faith that peer-review and publication in journals is an effective method for weeding out "bad" metascience?

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Re:If you think psychological science is bad, imagine how ba... by caenn on Wednesday June 16, 2021 @03:56PM (#27532770)

Indeed, and if you think metascience is bad, imagine meta-metascience.

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Re:If you think psychological science is bad, imagine how ba... by svieira on Wednesday June 16, 2021 @06:26PM (#27534170)

Meta-metascience has been studied _extensively_ by previous generations, where what this generation calls "science" was called "natural philosophy" and interesting discourse and study was had on such things as:

* The study of knowledge (epistemology): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology

* The study of existence and what exists (ontology): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontology

* The study of the purpose of things (teleology): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleology

It turns out that these are hard areas of study and it requires a lot of properly focused leisure time to understand properly. Most people don't consider these things, wing it, and wind up working with a half-baked meta-meta science of their own creation ... oh, I see what you mean :-D

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Re:If you think psychological science is bad, imagine how ba... by analog31 on Wednesday June 16, 2021 @04:05PM (#27532858)

Where's tail call optimization when you need it?

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Re:If you think psychological science is bad, imagine how ba... by jonsen on Wednesday June 16, 2021 @04:50PM (#27533303)

Would be nice if tail call optimization solved the halting problem.

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Re:If you think psychological science is bad, imagine how ba... by IIAOPSW on Wednesday June 16, 2021 @05:15PM (#27533566)

You've caught an Orobus by the tail!

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