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Re:How does one get hired by a top cybercrime gang? by ghaff on Wednesday June 16, 2021 @02:28PM (#27531820)
It's common in a fair number of places: professional sports, music, book writing (among those doing it for money), acting, law (to a lesser degree).

The very top does well, even very very well. Most everyone else scrapes by--if that.

Most professional jobs aren't like that. Sure senior execs can make an outsized amount of money but most of the rank and file are still doing OK.

Re:How does one get hired by a top cybercrime gang? by jedberg on Wednesday June 16, 2021 @02:42PM (#27531968)
Law is more bimodal than a pyramid.

All those other ones you mentioned rely on popularity to determine one's paycheck, which is why they are all pyramids.

Re:How does one get hired by a top cybercrime gang? by ghaff on Wednesday June 16, 2021 @02:56PM (#27532131)
They're not really pyramids though. If you're a baseball player, you either make a lot of money by most people's standards, albeit for a possibly short career, or you basically don't make much at all, even if you can play in the minors.

Law isn't quite so stark. You don't have to be at a white shoe firm to do OK (corporate counsel, prosperous practice in a smaller city) but a lot of lawyers certainly make pretty modest salaries.

Re:How does one get hired by a top cybercrime gang? by jedberg on Wednesday June 16, 2021 @03:03PM (#27532198)
It's still a pyramid. There are a few people at the top. There is the next layer of the people who make a decent living, aka the "middle class" actors, the folks making MLB minimum wage ($600K/yr), etc. and then all the people in the bottom layer trying to break in (the starving actors, the minor league players, etc).

And lawyers are very bimodal. You have a ton of lawyers who make less than <$90K/yr, and then a whole bunch making >$200K/yr, and not a lot in between.

Re:How does one get hired by a top cybercrime gang? by ghaff on Wednesday June 16, 2021 @03:09PM (#27532250)
Maybe. I don't dispute that law is bimodal but I also am pretty sure there are a fair number of corporate counsels and partners at smaller practices earning comfortable low six figure salaries out there.
Re:How does one get hired by a top cybercrime gang? by Spooky23 on Wednesday June 16, 2021 @05:01PM (#27533423)
Exactly. The middle ones are all government attorneys who exchange earning potential for stability and more humane hours.
Re:How does one get hired by a top cybercrime gang? by perl4ever on Wednesday June 16, 2021 @09:27PM (#27535342)
I remember reading, some years ago, about how lawyers who couldn't find work would be stuck doing document review, and they would rant on the internet about how mind-numbing, low-paid, and degrading it was. But they'd be stuck, because it was the only option to pay off student loans.

I assume at some point the job was mostly offshored? It's one of those things that I wonder if people overseas would do a better job even at the same price, if they saw it as a great job, as opposed to Americans who see it as a badge of failure.

Re:How does one get hired by a top cybercrime gang? by ghaff on Wednesday June 16, 2021 @10:23PM (#27535607)
A lot of rote legal work was also automated as I understand it.

Historically, law schools were also something that folks from even elite liberal arts colleges went to because they weren't sure what they wanted to do when they "grew up." I know a lot of folks with law degrees that maybe worked as associates for a few years but ended off going and doing something else related to politics or whatever.

Re:How does one get hired by a top cybercrime gang? by anitil on Wednesday June 16, 2021 @07:17PM (#27534593)
Are the two modes partner/partner-track and everyone else? I'm not very familiar with it.
Re:How does one get hired by a top cybercrime gang? by jedberg on Wednesday June 16, 2021 @07:20PM (#27534609)
It's "graduated from a top 20 school" vs everyone else. Maybe even top 10.
Re:How does one get hired by a top cybercrime gang? by ghaff on Wednesday June 16, 2021 @10:32PM (#27535641)
A bit of an exaggeration but it's went to a top 10 school, clerked at the Supreme Court or at least US Court of Appeals, made partner at a white shoe firm, and everyone else.
Re:How does one get hired by a top cybercrime gang? by pault on Wednesday June 16, 2021 @07:43PM (#27534760)
I’ve always called them glamour or prestige jobs. If people think it’s cool there will always be someone willing to do it for free.
Re:How does one get hired by a top cybercrime gang? by balls187 on Wednesday June 16, 2021 @11:30PM (#27535886)
I believe most major US professional sports have players unions, which provides minimum salaries that are livable.

Though I recall ~20 years ago that MLB players on league minimums (~70k/yr) were able to collect state unemployment benefits during the off season.