Re:Why no-one in America was arrested as part of Operation I...
by elliekelly on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @07:26AM
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> preloaded on mobile phones you'd only buy for criminal acts
Is this a thing? A specific type of prepaid phone or maybe a “laundered” sim card?
Re:Why no-one in America was arrested as part of Operation I...
by pc86 on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @11:06AM
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Every article about this has gone into at least a cursory explanation that these weren't even really phones per se. They were basically hardware devices used to access AN0M. This had the double effect of 1) making the criminals feel like it was more secure because it wasn't "public" and 2) making it easier for the governments involved to make the software do whatever they needed it to do.
Re:Why no-one in America was arrested as part of Operation I...
by lugged on Wednesday June 16, 2021 @01:44AM
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Basically, you'd buy them by the dozen, app preinstalled, sim and data probably optional.
Re:Why no-one in America was arrested as part of Operation I...
by Ma8ee on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @04:40AM
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But globally it was much more. We are talking about in total 800 arrests with 155 of these in Sweden.
Re:Why no-one in America was arrested as part of Operation I...
by senectus1 on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @01:57AM
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they also paid a subscription fee :-P
and it was invite only...
Re:Why no-one in America was arrested as part of Operation I...
by taylorfinley on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @02:49AM
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This is brilliant on two counts:
1. There is a well known adage that goes something like, 'if the service is free, you're the product.' One could easily think the inverse is true ('if you're paying for the product, you're the customer') but obviously in the light of this case it isn't necessarily so. But making users pay for the service likely decreased their level of suspicion.
2. Need to tie a pseudonym to real person? A credit card number, bank account, or even a bitcoin public key get you a long way toward that goal.
Re:Why no-one in America was arrested as part of Operation I...
by senectus1 on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @02:53AM
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I like privacy as well, but i can't help but be amused by this whole situation.
I need to go find a copy of the adverts and spec for this product.. i'd love to know how they got around lying to their customers.
Re:Why no-one in America was arrested as part of Operation I...
by PeterisP on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @03:31AM
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IIRC they explicitly used the slogan "Developed by criminals for criminals" or something like that in marketing the device - which has the nice side effect of providing some justification to issue a warrant for all users, that there is some probable cause for reading all data, not just some specific people.
Re:Why no-one in America was arrested as part of Operation I...
by Ekaros on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @03:55AM
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So truth in advertising. Too bad the criminals on other side worked for government...
Re:Why no-one in America was arrested as part of Operation I...
by dannyw on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @04:24AM
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Or is it? I mean, it sounded like an app specifically marketed and used for serious organised crime, so as someone who is pro-encryption, pro-privacy, this seems like entirely reasonable police work.
For the record, they almost certainly overreached elsewhere but imo, what was done with this app is pretty fair and balanced.
It's much better than requiring backdoors in apps or services. It's almost like real police work.