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Re:Google Workspace for everyone by ignoramous on Monday June 14, 2021 @04:46PM (#27508077)
> This was ostensibly done for security reasons (citing zoom bombing, of all things, coz it was in the news).

I don't think this is without basis? Zoom got some bad press. Unsure if Teams is any better.

Zoom apps sending data to Facebook https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22693792

Zoom lying about e2ee https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25044254

Zoom installer on macOS https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22706650

Zoom rolling its own crypto https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22768494

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Re:Google Workspace for everyone by saddlerustle on Monday June 14, 2021 @07:56PM (#27509864)
#2 and #4 are both about Zoom having a botched e2e implementation (it was "e2e", but had server-side key management). That's not really a win for Teams since it doesn't even try to support e2e.
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Re:Google Workspace for everyone by ignoramous on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @05:59AM (#27513122)
> #2 and #4 are both about Zoom having a botched e2e implementation

I'd reckon Zoom engs know what's e2ee and what's not. I tend to agree with folks who say their sales team purposefully lied to win deals.

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Re:Google Workspace for everyone by pydry on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @06:08AM (#27513185)
The bad press it got looked more like the result of a sustained PR campaign against them than anything natural.

I remember the Facebook thing alone getting about as much airtime as MS's three teams zero days despite being insignificant by comparison.

E2E encryption that isn't properly end to end is newsworthy but it isn't a good reason to justify selecting a competing product that doesn't even try.

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