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Re:FSF and GNU channels seized by Freenode staff by zatertip on Sunday June 13, 2021 @03:46AM (#27490656)
Having decided to move their channels to Libera, with a final transition date of June 25th, the Free Software Foundation channels were seized by freenode staff early today.
Re:FSF and GNU channels seized by Freenode staff by Arnt on Sunday June 13, 2021 @06:20AM (#27491348)
The best IRC admins are levelheaded and slow to anger.

Andrew Lee doesn't seem to have found many such people when he recruited new volunteers for Freenode.

Re:FSF and GNU channels seized by Freenode staff by tutfbhuf on Sunday June 13, 2021 @08:42AM (#27492069)
It seems to me as Lee wants to force everybody away from Freenode to Libera and other servers. I just don't understand why.
Re:FSF and GNU channels seized by Freenode staff by vq on Sunday June 13, 2021 @04:42AM (#27490905)
Re:FSF and GNU channels seized by Freenode staff by vfclists on Sunday June 13, 2021 @06:08AM (#27491298)
Much as Freenode Ltd/Andrew Lee may be seen as having taken over Freenode it is clear that disloyal and morally suspect Freenode domain administrators are as much to blame.

Whoever transferred those domains must have known the possible consequences but were clearly not deterred.

Did they inform the community or consult them before?

Re:FSF and GNU channels seized by Freenode staff by alyxw on Sunday June 13, 2021 @09:26AM (#27492380)
You.. you've heard about the whole Libera thing, right? The thing where literally all of existing staff went "We're being legally forced to do the thing. freenode is bad now. we have an alternative available"?
Re:FSF and GNU channels seized by Freenode staff by vfclists on Sunday June 13, 2021 @11:35AM (#27493442)
The problem is Freenode was run without any proper legal and management structures in place.

Obviously a lot of its administrators ignored the fact that some admin could simply hock Freenode's domain names to a third party and when Andrew Lee purchases the domains with the intent of profiting from them, they start crying foul.

The blame for the whole debacle lies with Freenode's admins or the people involved in it who should have seen this coming from way off.

It is no different from some venture capitalists trying to profit from the .org domains.

Re:FSF and GNU channels seized by Freenode staff by denton-scratch on Sunday June 13, 2021 @03:22PM (#27495459)
Well, yes; the head of the organisation gave away the domains in exchange for a job. Everyone gets into a tight spot sometime; Freenode wasn't structured to deal with that challenge.
Re:FSF and GNU channels seized by Freenode staff by vfclists on Tuesday June 15, 2021 @07:22PM (#27522912)
Why didn't they appeal to the community for funds via a GofundMe or something?

I'm sure they would have got some support

Re:FSF and GNU channels seized by Freenode staff by techrat on Sunday June 20, 2021 @12:32PM (#27571597)
Freenode, the organization, wasn't in a tight spot. The head of Freenode staff at the time, Christel, sold assets to Andrew Lee without disclosing the terms to the rest of the Freenode staffers. Andrew Lee is one of the people who benefited from the MtGox collapse and basically could intimidate people with lawyers until he got his way.

The whole of the Freenode staff, minus Christel, basically saw no option but to walk away knowing the kind of person Andrew Lee is. And now everyone else knows for we can see what he did to Freenode itself when it was entirely in his hands.

Libera is where they walked away towards and it's doing just fine.

For her troubles, Christel is now a CCO at PIA, one of Andrew Lee's former companies.

Freenode wasn't in trouble until Andrew decided it was his.