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Re:It’s time to break up the Ivy League cartel by tootie on Friday June 11, 2021 @07:45PM (#27479883)
On that note, the liberal cry of student loan forgiveness will overwhelmingly favor people who went to expensive private colleges. Taxing big endowments seems pretty senseless and doesn't create any positive incentives either. More support and less stigma against state schools would probably do the most good.
Re:It’s time to break up the Ivy League cartel by wolverine876 on Friday June 11, 2021 @08:56PM (#27480332)
> the liberal cry of student loan forgiveness

What if we dropped the inflammatory political attack and just talked about loan forgiveness? Can an idea or anything else be depoliticized.

And it does have some benefits, in addition to that drawback. I'm not sure about the extent or nature of it - many leading colleges reduce their prices to get the students in the door - has anyone studied it?

Re:It’s time to break up the Ivy League cartel by tootie on Saturday June 12, 2021 @12:56PM (#27485724)
I count myself as a liberal but also a wonky liberal. The fact the progressive agitators don't have sound evidence for the validity of their ideas beyond number of retweets bugs the hell out of me. Student loan forgiveness would most likely be a net positive it's just going to be quite expensive for relatively little reward. Incremental wins on health care and progressive taxation will be much simpler and more beneficial.
Re:It’s time to break up the Ivy League cartel by wolverine876 on Saturday June 12, 2021 @01:59PM (#27486242)
You're a "wonky liberal", but it's the lack of sound evidence for progressive ideas that bothers you? Issues like climate change? Mass incarceration? Racism? Universal health care? Vaccinating people and wearing masks (not a position limited to progressives)? There's not another part of the political spectrum that lacks sound evidence?

That's a bit mind-boggling, but not the first time I've seen it. My hypothesis: Middle-ground liberals are intimidated by abusive conservatives, but they feel safe criticizing progressives. You won't get flamed on HN, for example, for what you posted.

Re:It’s time to break up the Ivy League cartel by tootie on Sunday June 13, 2021 @09:52AM (#27492597)
No, no not at all. I'm only talking about student loan debt. I'm 100% on board with everything else.
Re:It’s time to break up the Ivy League cartel by rkk3 on Friday June 11, 2021 @07:50PM (#27479917)
> the liberal cry of student loan forgiveness will overwhelmingly favor people who went to expensive private colleges.

True, but you can be expensive & private & not be elite (most of them are not by definition).

Re:It’s time to break up the Ivy League cartel by rejectedandsad on Friday June 11, 2021 @09:50PM (#27480665)
This is correct, and one of the many reasons why I’m very glad President Biden came out against blanket loan forgiveness at the high end of $50k even though Schumer, AOC, Warren support it