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Re:Amazon reverses course, expands work-from-home options by noir_lord on Friday June 11, 2021 @08:05AM (#27472177)
> This is the same with how some people prefer cubicles (like me!)

For me it goes like this (best to worse).

    WFH Forever (as I currently do).
    On-site own office
    Small Office (only devs)
    Cubicle
    Open Office.
Should note I will not work in an open office as in I used to ask in the interview if it was an open office and if so terminate the interview politely.

Small Office/Cubicle you'd have to be paying spectaculary well.

On-site own office I'd consider for market rate and WFH - just pay me the average for my level.

Basically if you want me on-site it'll cost more, if you want me on-site in a less than ideal working environment (for me) it'll cost even more.

Re:Amazon reverses course, expands work-from-home options by biztos on Friday June 11, 2021 @11:28AM (#27474651)
Interesting that you prefer a small (shared) office to a cubicle -- I never worked in one but I imagine it to be a special kind of Hell.

At least with a cubicle your space, such as it is, is your space -- you don't have to share it with John who smells funny or Larry who talks to himself, and so on.

Re:Amazon reverses course, expands work-from-home options by frumper on Friday June 11, 2021 @12:53PM (#27475701)
I can smell and hear my co-workers from my cubicle just fine. In the floor I'm on we have accountants, developers, the help desk, people that write contracts, and our travel desk. There is a lot of competing noise about a ton of different topics. To those, including my boss, that say as remote we miss out on the overhearing about an issue and coming up with a solution, I present you that I overhear about how accounting is categorizing funding, or whether contracts need to have contractors submit insurance more regularly. The developers all have on noise canceling headphones and send chat/email. On really fun days someone cooks fish in the microwave in the nearby kitchenette, but usually it's just smelling the dozen or so cubicles around me.
Re:Amazon reverses course, expands work-from-home options by WorldMaker on Friday June 11, 2021 @02:48PM (#27477083)
Most shared offices still have separate desks and/or cubicle-like dividers between spaces.

> you don't have to share it with John who smells funny or Larry who talks to himself, and so on

A cubicle room is a shared office with more participants. It's the difference between trying to find an dorm room with a roommate or three versus a cabin full of bunks with dozens of roommates. (The fact that "apartments" with proper offices are so far below the "norm" in work environments versus home environments/living arrangements says so much. When was the last time a cabin full of bunks was something you expected to be in 90% of the year? [Also, I think in this analogy the open office is the church basement full of sleeping bags.])

Re:Amazon reverses course, expands work-from-home options by noir_lord on Saturday June 12, 2021 @07:19AM (#27483653)
> Also, I think in this analogy the open office is the church basement full of sleeping bags.

Only if half the people using the sleeping bags are also practicing the drums.

Re:Amazon reverses course, expands work-from-home options by noir_lord on Friday June 11, 2021 @02:05PM (#27476613)
A small office with only devs in is generally quieter than a cubicle surrounded by cubicles full of non-devs.

There are two things that stop me from working comfortably/well - noise I can't control and visual distractions (and it's gotten worse as I've gotten older).