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Re:El Salvador Plans to Use Electricity Generated from Volca... by vidarh on Friday June 11, 2021 @07:56AM (#27472092)
Or option A + B: Invest in more geothermal - they already have a lot -, and use bitcoin mining when demand is low to help offset the cost. If mining makes it cost-effective to increase sources like geothermal past the point where it covers the base load so it reduces the need for peaker plants, that might be worthwhile (though of course the other option is to invest in storage)

But the potential geothermal output for El Salvador is huge.

Re:El Salvador Plans to Use Electricity Generated from Volca... by paulgb on Friday June 11, 2021 @12:13PM (#27475178)
> use bitcoin mining when demand is low to help offset the cost

I've looked at income statements of a bunch of public companies that mine Bitcoin, and one of the most striking things is how much of the cost is actually depreciation of hardware. Granted, part of this is that they are running the hardware to its limits, but another aspect is that new improved mining hardware comes out frequently and pushes the old hardware over the profitability edge.

Basically, I'm skeptical that anyone can mine Bitcoin profitably without running the hardware 24/7. Other coins that use commodity hardware, maybe.

Re:El Salvador Plans to Use Electricity Generated from Volca... by vidarh on Friday June 11, 2021 @01:03PM (#27475814)
But aggressive depreciation of hardware is in part a function of how much the electricity costs. If you're running off what is in effect "waste", then that would change the amortisation significantly.

May well be that it won't change the cost structure enough - I treat this as the president deciding an announcement like this, which amounts to little more than "I've asked them to look into it", as a way to get some publicity. It could very well end up being silently put aside if the costs don't stack up.

Re:El Salvador Plans to Use Electricity Generated from Volca... by lucb1e on Friday June 11, 2021 @08:00AM (#27472130)
Okay but that's not what they're saying, is it? If that was the plan, surely there would be a mention of said plan while they're announcing plans. Would be a bit weird to only announce "we're gonna turn heat into heat+money" but not "and also reduce our climate impact whenever possible".
Re:El Salvador Plans to Use Electricity Generated from Volca... by garydevenay on Friday June 11, 2021 @08:50AM (#27472577)
Some context to this plan:

This idea was presented to President Bukele during a Twitter Spaces[1] session where he discussed the bill with the Bitcoin community whilst it was going through voting. Mining Bitcoin was not something he has previously considered and openly ideated on the call with the community. It seems like a fully proposed plan for how Bitcoin mining will play a part in the country's overall energy policy has likely not yet been fully formed.

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRnygiyuG0k&t=4s

Re:El Salvador Plans to Use Electricity Generated from Volca... by vidarh on Friday June 11, 2021 @12:26PM (#27475333)
You're assuming there is a plan, rather than just the president using it to get attention. All that seems to have really happened is that he's asked someone at the majority government owned geothermal power company to look into doing it.
Re:El Salvador Plans to Use Electricity Generated from Volca... by lucb1e on Friday June 11, 2021 @12:42PM (#27475542)
Not exactly. I'm wondering whether the person who says they're going to do something better than what they're currently saying is correct.
Re:El Salvador Plans to Use Electricity Generated from Volca... by vidarh on Friday June 11, 2021 @12:47PM (#27475613)
Who is saying they are going to do something better? You gave a couple of options, and I pointed out there was an additional option. They are still just options absent a commitment to a plan, and there's no indication anyone has set out any actual plans.