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Re:Don't Feed the Thought Leaders by austincheney on Thursday June 10, 2021 @11:47PM (#27469071)
Most people agree with this. The actual challenge is to discern real rules from superficial bullshit. That is a level of criticality many people do not possess and some find hostile or disgusting.
Re:Don't Feed the Thought Leaders by dralley on Thursday June 10, 2021 @11:58PM (#27469126)
Raymond Hettinger talks about this in "Beyond PEP8", which is one of my favorite conference talks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf-BqAjZb8M

Re:Don't Feed the Thought Leaders by justin_oaks on Friday June 11, 2021 @10:43AM (#27474046)
That's a great talk. Thanks for sharing it.

He does well to explain how PEP 8 can be good but some people focus on it because they may not have experience to contribute otherwise.

Re:Don't Feed the Thought Leaders by sturadnidge on Friday June 11, 2021 @07:20AM (#27471779)
That talk is fantastic, and I don’t even write Python. Thanks for sharing!
Re:Don't Feed the Thought Leaders by kqr on Friday June 11, 2021 @02:48AM (#27470101)
Another challenge is that it's very easy to think you understand the rationale behind the rules well before you actually grok them.
Re:Don't Feed the Thought Leaders by ludamad on Friday June 11, 2021 @10:02AM (#27473451)
At work I learned a theoretical set of best practices for the software we integrate with. I was very enthusiastic about applying them. This caused me to learn the real set of best practices, mostly leaning on the stuff that works most robustly (even to recreate other features, usually ones that prove inflexible when pushed).
Re:Don't Feed the Thought Leaders by quetzthecoatl on Friday June 11, 2021 @03:22AM (#27470288)
especially when there are too many such rule lists often contridicting with each other. Finding the right list becomes the key for someone (beginner to a domain) who has to follow the rules. That's just luck.
Re:Don't Feed the Thought Leaders by austincheney on Friday June 11, 2021 @04:27AM (#27470671)
It’s even more implicit than that. For example there are social criteria and considerations of vanity.

Another example is that I recently wrote a comment that received greater than 10 votes and was flagged (I presume by users) almost immediately. The comment was thus both commonly agreeable (perhaps people could empathize to the subject matter) and yet a violation of social norms. An unspoken social rule violation.

That comment also received contradictory responses: I’m not woke, but.... Contradictory responses are generally an explicit mention of internal confusion where the person cannot even agree with themselves on social conformance: I’m not lying, but.... If it’s not complete bullshit then don’t posture with a qualifier.