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Re:Heart inflammation cases in young men higher than expecte... by adamiscool8 on Thursday June 10, 2021 @09:29PM (#27468317)
Not OP but the chance of hospitalization in that age bracket is about 0.2% [0] There appears to be at least a 20% chance that post-vaccine someone of that age will feel rough enough to take medication [1].

People who are currently healthy choosing to avoid the risk of immediate short-term pain when presented with a small, remote gain seems like classic prospect theory!

[0] https://www.statista.com/statistics/1122354/covid-19-us-hosp...

[1] https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/pfizer...

Re:Heart inflammation cases in young men higher than expecte... by AshamedCaptain on Thursday June 10, 2021 @09:52PM (#27468472)
20% chance of feeling rough enough to take medication does not seem much higher than the human average. Without comparing to placebo it is meaningless.
Re:Heart inflammation cases in young men higher than expecte... by adamiscool8 on Friday June 11, 2021 @01:02AM (#27469478)
They did compare it to placebo, plus, humans don’t compare to placebo they compare to their status quo condition.
Re:Heart inflammation cases in young men higher than expecte... by weaksauce on Friday June 11, 2021 @02:31PM (#27476912)
you are conflating "rough enough to take a medication" with being "so sick you are in the hospital with covid." crazy comparison. I got my vaccine and the second shot hit me hard enough that I had to take some ibuprofen. Not a single regret and it wasn't that bad.

you are comparing apples to oranges.

Re:Heart inflammation cases in young men higher than expecte... by adamiscool8 on Friday June 11, 2021 @04:17PM (#27477924)
I'm not conflating anything? I'm only pointing out, under prospect theory, people value avoiding a loss over a risk for a gain.

It's rational for someone who is currently healthy, in an age group with a 0.2% of COVID turning into anything more than a standard cold/flu, to turn down an immediate risk (orders of magnitude larger) that they will feel unhealthy for a couple days.

Re:Heart inflammation cases in young men higher than expecte... by weaksauce on Saturday June 12, 2021 @09:40PM (#27489056)
> in an age group with a 0.2% of COVID turning into anything more than a standard cold/flu

except that's not the statistic... that's the death statistic for that age group. the odds of getting sicker than cold/flu are higher still and you will get much much sicker than the vaccine will give most people.

Re:Heart inflammation cases in young men higher than expecte... by adamiscool8 on Sunday June 13, 2021 @01:11PM (#27494251)
It was the hospitalization rate, as cited, and the rest of your comment is unsupported conjecture...
Re:Heart inflammation cases in young men higher than expecte... by weaksauce on Sunday June 13, 2021 @02:34PM (#27495039)
Except that's misleading considering that hospitalization is not a prerequisite for death and the statistic in that group is higher than 0.2%

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#demographics

the death rate in that cohort is 0.36% or about 1 in 300

14,387 deaths in 3,978,547 cases

considering that they are on the high end of that bracket the next higher bracket is about 1.3% mortality rate or about 1 in 100 though that houses the group up to age 64 so it's more likely closer to the 0.5%-0.8% mortality rate but that's interpolating the data so it's messy.