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Re:Developers can't fix bad management (2020) by jollybean on Thursday June 10, 2021 @11:17AM (#27461697)
I generally support this assessment.

As a 'developer' I thought 'we were doing all the stuff' while everyone else catered to us.

During my roles out of that seat, I view 90% of development as a form of intellectual labour, it's just work, one piece of many things.

The hardest job by far is selling.

The next hardest job overall, as the commenter mentions, is making a 'whole product' and targeting it at customers.

Engineering is hard, but not harder than the above.

I would almost like every Engineer to work for 3 months in PM or Sales just to get their perspective flipped.

Engineering feels more 'worky' because it's more direct.

Re:Developers can't fix bad management (2020) by gregors on Thursday June 10, 2021 @12:17PM (#27462400)
Regarding selling - I've know amazing people who could sell all kinds of products that don't even exist. So selling by itself doesn't seem to be the hardest thing - selling something that relates to the reality of the product is far more difficult.