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Re:Evaluating necessity of Covid-19 vaccination in previousl... by hn_throwaway_99 on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @10:23PM (#27456025)
> Most authorities are downplaying natural immunity, despite evidence like this.

OK, I think I can agree with this, I've seen lots of "getting the vaccine provides much better immunity than getting Covid"-type statements that seemed more like conjecture.

> The more widely this spreads, the more people will realize it's ok to rely on natural immunity, and to not blanket demonize those who are unvaccinated.

Is this a serious statement? The problem isn't that natural immunity doesn't keep make you immune, the problem is that "acquiring natural immunity" often results in death, especially for vulnerable populations.

Re:Evaluating necessity of Covid-19 vaccination in previousl... by JeremyNT on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @10:51PM (#27456166)
> > The more widely this spreads, the more people will realize it's ok to rely on natural immunity, and to not blanket demonize those who are unvaccinated.

> Is this a serious statement? The problem isn't that natural immunity doesn't keep make you immune, the problem is that "acquiring natural immunity" often results in death, especially for vulnerable populations.

It's a real policy question: how much to worry about vaccinating people who already had COVID. The confusion (or propaganda?) downplaying natural immunity means that many people would needlessly get the vaccine while already possessing immunity from prior infection.

In the US, this no longer matters, as we already have more vaccine supply than we have people willing to receive it. Elsewhere, though, where supplies remain scarce, we absolutely should be focusing efforts around vaccinating people who have not yet gotten the disease.

Re:Evaluating necessity of Covid-19 vaccination in previousl... by briefcomment on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @10:52PM (#27456169)
> the problem is that "acquiring natural immunity" often results in death, especially for vulnerable populations

You're reading beyond what I'm saying. My point is that there is no need to push those who have already gotten Covid to also get the vaccine. I'm not saying anything about getting sick as an alternative to getting the vaccine.

Re:Evaluating necessity of Covid-19 vaccination in previousl... by hn_throwaway_99 on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @11:17PM (#27456311)
Thanks, and apologies, I misunderstood your comment.
Re:Evaluating necessity of Covid-19 vaccination in previousl... by rayiner on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @10:47PM (#27456140)
It rarely results in death. Even men 65-75 have a only a 3% chance of dying if they get covid. To put that into perspective, according to the mortality tables, those people have a 1.5-3.5% chance of dying in a given year even under normal circumstances.
Re:Evaluating necessity of Covid-19 vaccination in previousl... by tptacek on Thursday June 10, 2021 @01:58AM (#27457250)
Polio has a death rate in the mid single digits, too.
Re:Evaluating necessity of Covid-19 vaccination in previousl... by rayiner on Thursday June 10, 2021 @05:55AM (#27458892)
For children and middle aged adults as well, not just people over 65. That and the permanent deformity and paralysis are a big difference.