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Re:Facebook extends its work-at-home policy to most employees by wokwokwok on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @08:23PM (#27455223)
People talk online too; it’s different for people who grew up using text messages and social media where they’re accustomed to building and maintaining online relationships.

I’m old, so don’t look at me, but when you look at the cohort of folk who are dealing with wfh successfully and productively, it’s, in my direct observation, younger folk.

None is perhaps true for more people than you think.

The ones who are struggling are the people who don’t “do chat” (ie the “oh no! I despise slack” group and the “let’s have a call to discuss that” group) and managers.

...and to be fair, it’s a lot harder to be a manager remotely; I can’t deny that.

...but people can build meaningful relationships online; it’s just different, and that’s hard for older people, in general.

Re:Facebook extends its work-at-home policy to most employees by caturopath on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @08:41PM (#27455363)
Many of my best friendships were forged online, often in groups collaborating on doing real work.

I have not been able to get any such spontaneity during remote work with my group or division at a large tech company with mostly young coworkers. I haven't been able to figure out why.

> the “oh no! I despise slack” group

Chat can be super useful, but can also create a nasty interruption culture. I don't know what the tools are to turn chat into a value-adding thing, but I don't think they're in place yet.

It pains me to see the number of people who reply quickly to chat messages all day in order to show they're 'working' rather than doing their jobs.

Re:Facebook extends its work-at-home policy to most employees by licebmi__at__ on Thursday June 10, 2021 @12:13AM (#27456581)
>Chat can be super useful, but can also create a nasty interruption culture

How is does chat creates an interruption culture compared to people literally standing in your shoulder and directly interrupting you? At least with chat I can decide to ignore the notifications until I’m finished with my current task.

Re:Facebook extends its work-at-home policy to most employees by caturopath on Saturday June 12, 2021 @01:35PM (#27486035)
Sending a chat message is a really low bar: people send off chat messages at will, without respect to whether someone looks like they're concentrating, wearing headphones, have the door closed, are in the office, whatever. This is fine so long as chat is regarded as async, but in a culture where people feel compelled to get them in real time, chat becomes super interrupty, even compared to people coming by.

If people exercise good judgement on ignoring notifications, it's less rough, though the tooling is really poor for using chat for async tracking, organization, triaging, and replies, even compared to emails or tickets.

Re:Facebook extends its work-at-home policy to most employees by earleybird on Thursday June 10, 2021 @12:57AM (#27456814)
bingo - chat interruptions are more manageable than a literal drive-by
Re:Facebook extends its work-at-home policy to most employees by jjav on Thursday June 10, 2021 @02:55AM (#27457678)
> > the “oh no! I despise slack” group

I despise slack more than probably most anyone. I've been working remote more often than not since the early 90s though, so remote is very natural. Non-stop interruptions will kill you though, regardless of job location, so close that slack tab.

> I don't know what the tools are to turn chat into a value-adding thing, but I don't think they're in place yet.

It's called email.. in the case of slack, just let it send notifications to email. That's how I monitor slack, I'll check my email when I have free time between concentration sessions.

Re:Facebook extends its work-at-home policy to most employees by SilverRed on Wednesday June 09, 2021 @09:50PM (#27455835)
It certainly depends on how willing you are to just have a random off topic chat with someone over IM. For me, there are a few people where if its the last hour of the day, we will just spend 30 mins half working half chatting. This helps build relationships with the people you work with in an otherwise unproductive period. If they are really busy at the time they can just tell you.